From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:28:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <86blno9yle.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87d0845msg.fsf@yahoo.com> <87h7xgjasw.fsf@yahoo.com> <875zdwjais.fsf@yahoo.com> <6a198677-41b6-4dbd-39d0-2b01550d53cf@yandex.ru> <32f6a2ce-e30f-059f-dcd4-233d666a10a1@yandex.ru> <87r1whiape.fsf@fastmail.fm> <87blnjopd0.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr> <83v9lregx0.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgguh9we.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83mu72ckjr.fsf@gnu.org> <87o8rhpeym.fsf@fastmail.fm> <83eesdb37v.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="32623"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Joost Kremers , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 24 12:29:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvaB-0008Ot-Up for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:29:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59400 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvaB-00049o-02 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:29:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:35508) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvZH-0003bE-Sb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:28:24 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvZH-0003fN-Dm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:28:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f172.google.com ([209.85.219.172]:41307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jRvZ8-0002g6-UY; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 06:28:15 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f172.google.com with SMTP id a9so4770042ybc.8; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 03:28:14 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=3Xg0oAJJLvpcRAzJ7cvDpMlbLmGosz1xBpqCpN+fOuM=; b=l87lU1EgUJknaJqYS5dgHRAWa2mqFMHk7jjEokMnMgOJLek1pf7gevLhzRNN6yIX5b ubJ44bMtjl3Swl3yPkTmswAvV2EFZhO0na2xHB9iwm7L1mQnYjyY0esIJC6M4koXoIjV X8pJQ9rbhieYgmu2YESSdLXFTMss6itX5s7xMlI2jz0450W25vLzDH2e6w0UhVURW+eE PUrCbOSunwNVvjk6IlMxnHadzRnerZ+oExenUVSbvHCn7qe/+Dtdf8EYBxmqnGkF6aK/ ioVQIVx3VDuSNPwD/9P777KMyOREHuaLIOhUKcnZDKaklqh0V2fqxCOBp0AUBVwQXRZv yOXw== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pub+oP7sQM8MlJ+3t0dt5v/J4RXYxYus9eaqqecBsnQ0akoCMRMh Qrn5xnQi++L8VZtoYt99sva+38Z/4ucuiPQlKPkL0nyq X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIPRYPhxETbdPygpVUN7dRYwYCfndIb7iXG7n/MSAwd2XZlwDa11pbAg3vqsDmDtghwNn+08OarzllSNoEMwj4= X-Received: by 2002:a25:2:: with SMTP id 2mr12569124yba.466.1587724092764; Fri, 24 Apr 2020 03:28:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83eesdb37v.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.219.172; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-yb1-f172.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/04/24 06:28:13 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.219.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247686 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Unless I misunderstand what you mean by "Org syntax", I don't think > users who want to create documents with Org should be required to know > that syntax. Instead, there should be commands to help them produce > correctly formatted snippets. I'm not sure what you mean here. AFAICT, there are already several such commands. - To insert a new headline, type 'M-RET'. - To insert a source block, type '< s TAB'. - To insert org export headers, type ''C-c C-e #'. - To schedule a headline for later, type 'C-c C-s'. - To insert a link, type 'C-c C-l'. - etc. Best regards, Stefan Kangas