From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Exposing buffer text modifications to Lisp Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:14:01 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2c2746e5f2558a87e8eab6f0914264a020173a9d.camel@pm.me> <27630AA3-8026-4E24-8852-ACCD9325B99D@gmail.com> <0E9E702B-B07C-4794-8498-29B9320E14CC@gmail.com> <871qvorqvv.fsf@localhost> <83tu8jq2vl.fsf@gnu.org> <87sfo37etn.fsf@localhost> <834k0jplcm.fsf@gnu.org> <878rpuwm9w.fsf@localhost> <83mteao3oj.fsf@gnu.org> <87edzmv3i0.fsf@localhost> <83k09eo1p5.fsf@gnu.org> <878rpuv17q.fsf@localhost> <83fsk2nyrm.fsf@gnu.org> <878rpr4kd4.fsf@localhost> <8335fzms6q.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="7978"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Ihor Radchenko , Yuan Fu , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Jun 20 16:24:41 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1o3IKX-0001rk-2X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 16:24:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34212 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3IKW-0003iv-2o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:24:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44006) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3IAU-0006XG-NV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f172.google.com ([209.85.210.172]:39550) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1o3IAT-00080I-5i; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 10:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f172.google.com with SMTP id p14so4674926pfh.6; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 07:14:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=cq0jhM1fVEatiR10xTPMnYWeQoe3Gf9nghh5H/vy9SM=; b=bLqvN2bNNyQ8Oxv0S+jvk63WKg9HwkQdOkxheI/IR0c6Tvtqh9jTGy6GBJalxZQiH4 nVyXJtlGBPYtHci7WN1esfdRPn94siDGmbl4B9MvowKCjAd56OKhJF7hQFmFEFv+Oo+K snd3tXDR5LeouDixyXHEYi/oH7ldXPjnDXWoqdRiwZssNjseo65IBEvLcyXc0hbNl1IN P8odKgoe93ekLaIr4oUCq2ZJCNcIWwazswVbjKAvidtPWec4+wf5b5uPoZ4zhyq1yPsN RjJ3Lol4slHdfHjVDxgEyWiGa8Dt87PxJZjjtweUAAxSEhdRVAZoebR91kjz1np4H09a fZVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora8xyTkSSLzfHeqRxNOV00fl9gieMxur3Zmol2Go9Bye6/E+Fp7V Bhj0avZrB/Inv98WM3TGxVkKtm+GE8mOxEASGiVbV9ME X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1v0s/F24BKfYLnD11SD3yRuQq5FKqnl817+R+/ncTdCxSYaK9xIRQKJhqVsfw7JyRG5vMVKuGEco1695S/fpiI= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9425:0:b0:525:279e:9251 with SMTP id y5-20020aa79425000000b00525279e9251mr3464687pfo.4.1655734455343; Mon, 20 Jun 2022 07:14:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <8335fzms6q.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.210.172; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-f172.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:291467 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > > Moreover, my previous attempt to propose a patch required for Org was > > sunk in the depths of emacs-devel threads. > > This can unfortunately happen with any discussion, and is not always > under our control. Perseverance is the only way I know of to prevail > in those cases. I very much recommend sending patches to bug-gnu-emacs instead of emacs-devel. That decreases the risk of them getting forgotten or lost in the noise by orders of magnitude.