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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263828 Archived-At: Ergus writes: > My problem is not the discussion itself, not even the final result; but > that when it becomes a "discussion" nothing finally happens FWIS. Either > if it is a general discussion like "modernizing emacs" or a very > specific one like this. I mean, sure. Please help by sending patches, and more will get done. FWIW, I'm working in silence on an improved splash screen, but since I do this in my spare time I tend to work on what strikes my fancy for the day, and progress is consequently fairly slow. I have some other project ideas from the "modernizing Emacs" discussion, but again only limited time. > IMHO, I would prefer that after a deadline you make a decision (even if > it is the opposite to what I expect) and close it. Otherwise it becomes > a never ending collections of emails with no final results... I guess there is nothing to make a final decision about unless someone threatens with a patch. Please do that more. :-)