From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Relevance of `baud-rate' in the 2020s? Date: Fri, 23 Oct 2020 10:21:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: <833625l9wv.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="34523"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 23 12:22:14 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kVuD7-0008pt-CV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 12:22:13 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54494 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVuD6-0005fu-Eu for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:22:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39896) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVuCV-00051X-A8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:21:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-f54.google.com ([209.85.208.54]:45753) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kVuCT-0004hn-PA; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 06:21:35 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-f54.google.com with SMTP id dg9so1000868edb.12; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:21:33 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=kgT4wsbN50Bq1yvgjO/bbgnuGHWf7IdkQgUOpkr3tjY=; b=BQ5C20T+yVHZJId9q6V46yN33xCgnz/JjcM7dDs0+HkLUg7ERkCaa3p2m7X/HIuqs/ AoL0w0+dpQ9ykr0Ni5rDSvkcVvwX1CuoQGujb2jhuZlJYQtM+9XXZor6lyG2/fXyfUXf GGzExBNiAcPz4m5qRjbHP9JB5AhjcOVKYDTr2Udh/sZ31KL6ht/r+3Q3DZE5+GK1iZ2j VvQ6ei/7dv6/ua15b+5mfs+f34TqHFCl8kUb7n9Fa1RSN59TinfeZwmcZ/X3MECPXMJO Dgf/3GVbqwIuTFKIDkIsthM3ht14mtyRurAirYQk8GVJ2lfWjc1wpjGhTj64swlcXpTB HxiA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531k3ZvtG7STc+rFlc21NwqaalER0sN+q5qyxDVgVUBJTWSpzOXK O0F7H7rSPomntrCP3w0J7kO5qOPHnrUbuu2hqHO1Wptq X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzErbRB1eSI+LoPlbg8TJAtGkULxdn8Zz5Q1TBe1RpWMzUo4ktE/BLuvNkVOIRZnFG9RARrveTKasXTCXjxjq8= X-Received: by 2002:a50:f785:: with SMTP id h5mr249714edn.249.1603448491604; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 03:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 23 Oct 2020 10:21:30 +0000 In-Reply-To: <833625l9wv.fsf@gnu.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.208.54; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-f54.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/23 06:21:32 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.25, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258337 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > In my remote corner of the world, I sometimes have periods of time > that Internet crawls at 3KB/sec. If I need to use Emacs on a remote > machine during that time, this "obsolete" mode is very useful, because > SSH sends more than just the characters I type. Thanks for explaining. It wasn't obvious to me that there still existed connections where this could be useful. Now that I think about it, I should probably have realized this. Please forgive my attempt at being funny. > If "baud-rate" is what bothers you, we can augment the name or > documentation to explain when this is useful and why. It could be useful, to avoid that others are left wondering like me. OTOH, anyone can now search the emacs-devel archives and find your explanation.