From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 06:44:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9471c28f-8eae-b555-ee86-9fffd6229937@yandex.ru> <87r1e690n8.fsf_-_@posteo.net> <9d5a2f83-d564-22e1-0cbd-df760044528f@yandex.ru> <837dfyyxyl.fsf@gnu.org> <8b4cf399-d1ca-8669-2a78-06813100b987@yandex.ru> <29c12300-db02-2770-e3f6-593998ea98fc@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15797"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "Philip K." , Daniel Fleischer , Yuan Fu , Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , Arthur Miller , Dmitry Gutov , Eli Zaretskii , John Yates To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 07 06:45:05 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNSyn-0003vh-2h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 06:45:05 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40410 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNSyl-0007W1-ER for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 00:45:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37288) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNSy7-0006r1-P8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 00:44:23 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-f42.google.com ([209.85.216.42]:54205) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNSy5-0005Rq-FP; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 00:44:23 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-f42.google.com with SMTP id j1so5492812pjv.3; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 21:44:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=B02OmI5ZbMRiJti4Icqm+FuJc4ozjgkMgGQquCunC2s=; b=sgQB6C/w2jU4KVo7QZjNF/9+iV/Ymuv2YXcF63WfDy5R58SKXKtVOl24nuClrvf+4L jEx3cH/aqgKoTQ914b5JMmCcmEnRT/ET9Lrtk8E1/iocfpxluofw/q6pw6aKtoDxIWdO kfwmfh9nTdsE+o5SgltI+RVYdpol5Qx8DEMQm0m1f3GQAeei4FiLcvmibY9Mh0dfMR2U j6V/wREL85RIjoCKwlidUy9wPxHozkrDC3iSSNB/lsA8FoDR65KUlXO1NaFJROfGuHZz sGDVa3NzSM2NX0lzzpcU607BvkknxSOl2recThlZE2dltltQjjp9IH4pBktPE5h+4LBP PGjQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533zonaAqS2k9AbZAmSuY0azvioAOZFgTzIpyC/JY3wDBbuUSIDw NBWnCrZq4xlc76yZ24L2bOwjNRe5Od52VQ1lQTF0KTGAW/E= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJx1lxsd2g4ztZKGjo70/saQg0EtUbMJM5axHvUWB7JuxxME9Z2jm3Be2KfBOb2ggUtQ/PIxi1VLgKxMhkZMpAM= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:7c42:: with SMTP id e2mr2540147pjl.132.1630989859212; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 21:44:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.216.42; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-f42.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274195 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > > By the way, how much work would it be to switch C-x and M-x prefixes to C-space and > > M-space respectively. > > We will not change C-x and M-x in the Emacs defaults, > nor C-SPC and M-SPC. Those are important commands. > > It is ok for a CUA theme to change them. This is completely backwards. It is precisely because it is important that C-x should be changed.