From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Representation of the Emacs userbase on emacs-devel Date: Tue, 7 Sep 2021 18:35:50 +0200 Message-ID: References: <837dfyyxyl.fsf@gnu.org> <8b4cf399-d1ca-8669-2a78-06813100b987@yandex.ru> <29c12300-db02-2770-e3f6-593998ea98fc@yandex.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16636"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Yuan Fu , Daniel Fleischer , Richard Stallman , "Philip K." , Emacs developers , Stefan Monnier , Arthur Miller , Eli Zaretskii , John Yates To: Dmitry Gutov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 07 18:36:52 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mNe5c-00046M-G1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 18:36:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35844 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNe5b-0002ai-37 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 12:36:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33960) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNe4v-0001sl-Sf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 12:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-f180.google.com ([209.85.210.180]:37427) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mNe4r-0007s5-16; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 12:36:09 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-f180.google.com with SMTP id x19so8602185pfu.4; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 09:36:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=PXTSCkVGSURdXH5+MVOILsIcXqgeCyd4A1dfey/2bPw=; b=Ufyn7xX9XeduLlBIqRqZFeziFke/cAsQYvY9zy7DGn2DBuWx36u3gq9H+qJN1Gxmsp SykSW2mfE6nWZ+i+kjJI413j+ASxaoLvFag+jW4XMf1Kflt7v6rQefgQxoc5uj6hNGi2 soUuXkiYkYGY+ij8fSlgWbcSQUFIOLy9DXdDG8+lEPbwqN3EWA7G39H+fqG6B7XuVZIt n85kHMxcO2Tvf5JdCd47hF/DnDlJiHmEut8JwcWydPSYu2BnRAMHof2aR+yKvaySbdp6 w5X8BCQzlyDje7UAKWdXZige7aVzSeITs/AJxR5niDQecLC0CES4EYisZjrumanWK0DS Jd3g== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530+wRkVDnGlSC5qIquUfm9EmuwtdBq6Hb4ulkFAlXjY4RMrnh7P 42pcZGHUrI0RKUwFjRbyxXT2Z/jJa5TEm534fVY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxr0z61kB81H0dx0f1joe77z/XP5rRPGLq0zGC2+39On2+WA5j5zQrETgz4lxmmHmXsI1IHpQQBmTsSN0G+bNs= X-Received: by 2002:a63:7d5d:: with SMTP id m29mr7731562pgn.114.1631032562785; Tue, 07 Sep 2021 09:36:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.210.180; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-f180.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.25, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:274265 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > It seems very improbable at this point to be able to get CUA bindings in > the default config. And given that there are unsolved questions WRT > prefixes, etc, I suggest we focus on the profile approach. Agreed. FWIW, I don't find it helpful with any pre-emptive "decision" at this stage, when no serious proposal is even on the table. Only experience with actual working code would allow us to evaluate of the relative pros and cons of both approaches. > We can argue about making it the default later, when the profile has > seen some use and had kinks ironed out. I like a good holy war as much as the next guy, but this one we could indeed postpone. ;-)