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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: jb@jeremybryant.net, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca,  philipk@posteo.net
Subject: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?
Date: Wed, 29 May 2024 13:44:37 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkmk-=b6h4=jC+ZyPx=DXSUz9nxoCvhDRWpdL9CiQNd-nSg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <864jagu9ji.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

> What we discussed was the desire to move packages out of core in a way
> that a release tarball would include those package.  That is what we
> have a consensus about (but not a complete and satisfactory solution
> yet).

It's possible that we have interpreted the previous discussions a bit
differently, or that I'm filling in too many blanks.

My understanding was that this was always going to be something like
1) make it possible to ship ELPA packages with core Emacs and then
2) decide which packages should be included.

To my mind, step 2 could either be restricted to only include packages
that used to be in core, or it could not be.  The difference is not very
big, at least not in principle, since before we bundle even two
packages, we still have to solve the issue of how to bundle even one.

> Back to the suggestion in this thread: I cannot really see why would
> we want to add almost 500 packages to Emacs.  Especially since AFAIR
> some of them solve the same or very similar problems in different,
> sometimes even contradictory, ways.
>
> If there are packages on ELPA which we consider to be a must for users
> (I don't think there are, but maybe I'm forgetting something), lets
> add them to core instead.

Not sure if there are any that are a must, but I do think a few of them
would be good to have included.  For example, `json-mode` would be nice
to have available OOTB (though we now have `json-ts-mode` too).



  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-05-29 20:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-28  8:48 Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release? Jeremy Bryant
2024-05-28 23:15 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-28 23:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29  5:59   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 11:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 15:27     ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-29 15:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 16:06       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 19:33         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-30 19:25           ` Adding AUCTeX to core " Jeremy Bryant
2024-05-30 19:33             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-31 18:58               ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-07 22:00                 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08  6:56                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08  9:40                   ` Arash Esbati
2024-06-08 15:25                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 15:49                     ` Po Lu
2024-06-09  3:54                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-09 19:39                         ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-29 22:16         ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-29 22:19           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-30  6:25           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30  6:33             ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-30  7:28               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30  8:15                 ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-30 15:20                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 20:35       ` Tassilo Horn
2024-05-29 22:04         ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-30  5:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 10:52             ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-30  5:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30  7:55         ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 11:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 11:53             ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 12:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 12:58                 ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 14:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 14:26                     ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 13:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 14:05             ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 15:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30  8:00         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 20:44     ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2024-05-30  5:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-07 21:48         ` Moving core packages to ELPA [Was: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?] Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08  6:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08  8:10             ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-08  8:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 15:55                 ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-08 16:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 16:59                     ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-07 21:55       ` Candidate packages for ELPA bundling " Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08  1:44         ` Po Lu
2024-06-08  2:11           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-08  2:46             ` Po Lu
2024-06-08  6:41               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08  6:54                 ` Po Lu
2024-06-08  7:47                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 15:06                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 16:24                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 15:09             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08  6:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08  6:48             ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 15:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 15:37             ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 15:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-09  0:06                 ` Po Lu
2024-06-09  3:55                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08  6:55         ` Philip Kaludercic

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