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Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com> writes:

> I don=E2=80=99t have any problem of adding it to core. I=E2=80=99m just p=
essimistic
> about how many people are incentivized to push for it and agree on
> things.

I am incentivized to both push for and agree on things.  ;-)

More seriously, you already had Eli agree that this does belong in core,
so I think the process should be rather smooth sailing, especially if we
try to make the first step as uncontroversial as possible.

> Putting it on ELPA doesn=E2=80=99t stop from working it into core, I thin=
k. I
> don=E2=80=99t want to get into another 1000-thread debate about what is t=
he
> =E2=80=9Cminimal set=E2=80=9D. Many of the stuff in setup-wizard.el are n=
ot easily
> agreed upon, but removing them IMO decreases the usefulness of
> setup-wizard.

How about putting the uncontroversial part in core, and creating a more
opinionated/useful add-on to put in GNU ELPA?  Then you can do basically
whatever you think is best in your add-on, while all new users still
benefit from the less opinionated/useful part that we put in core.

I am also not eager to get into a 1000-thread debate, but here are my
observations on the points you bring up:

> For example, the =E2=80=9Cwizards=E2=80=99 choice=E2=80=9D binding scheme=
,

Could you expand on what this means?

> the option to turn off menu-bar,

I have no opinion on whether or not this should be part of an initial
setup wizard.

> the recommendation of ivy and company.

These sound good to me.  Does the wizard also help install the packages,
and say clearly that this is about to happen?