From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposal for an improved `help-for-help' Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2021 10:42:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: <838s7hxqkr.fsf@gnu.org> <83mtua9isw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36698"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Howard Melman , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Apr 09 17:43:07 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lUtHn-0009SV-DB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 17:43:07 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52420 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUtHm-0006Zu-Bv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 11:43:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41370) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUtGn-0005UE-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 11:42:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pg1-x52d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d]:41930) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lUtGm-0004lI-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 11:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pg1-x52d.google.com with SMTP id f29so4200492pgm.8 for ; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 08:42:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Mh48iMrNJ0WPN/fQAr5Tath6Qyk+iAf+PznWdpbbVZ4=; b=YZ/SgRQfDTW8hZ76Gx+W02OIJwNZ2b2DxGoZ8F2QuWpxE57WP9twERwwlCIfoeCYSG vJAtDnJK7iRmwXMAFwkZzrvyJFfNqEXRnVYwfu7BiKHfcXkrfyXbAqu14kBRbgFdXi2/ HuOabBx5AT6baDUrImwp3QUfFbFRxv0XizTsF09rkszG7+vcdPVLY2jnnaynsrVQX+2p doc48sMlCqSaNxszhUsXLIX9D1V3kOcxvFnBMNXePwlfAbBHTcv1bbzTFPu4fMCQuRHq qDo4HbueUB9vm+SA0xtksDO0u57QtOGuFGS7yT03qXj+/DMTlEMwhmeCZG+jr2xlk9wV 7EkQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Mh48iMrNJ0WPN/fQAr5Tath6Qyk+iAf+PznWdpbbVZ4=; b=V7BQt5lTLhLcLVazbomqoui8ECfa2QWxMV+DSTgXBZKS1A5JvG/ZJTfI4tLAIng6fg pO9wNp76pe8nFXw5tYWhPjVhklHMvL1FQu4CS38fqV55IYXD5pDPsIeaIgjRtX0pcZ4e Ft/CQ52BtK+c/6MwrgarV4c85uqcDi6reBTi97zq98+wEGawrsi3K/PtZ3SN4EHR0rpt xxQpXQvdnV8n2XnVem6nlEEQGGp59pKnJ8aNOZoqndz4zn3GNtp2GrC6lHtWjrck06PN /WpMm3QZlq2LR+5g8nyqjxEyp0lsupk0Ffv5/j/cNh62mWvjfKXwI9ZoeITNvKF52JxO GXPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531PG17MbiV7J7pRzWUJt7H8aAwA0tIxj3ezbaODQTkxVSqCYZRp oI7LfJq5/v+VewVJUag/ZpBDJCEu0mbg23Pjyjg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJw0kiHdk9NyecVWFCgYwsIavbKUFHipxPc5OkhtcBEZntg8OvBirqpMysJDz3nAnIG8RO6CC1OE2RrFFgkX/DI= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8f31:0:b029:1f8:987a:53dc with SMTP id y17-20020aa78f310000b02901f8987a53dcmr12722451pfr.58.1617982922491; Fri, 09 Apr 2021 08:42:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 9 Apr 2021 10:42:01 -0500 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::52d; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pg1-x52d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:267725 Archived-At: Howard Melman writes: > Actually, here's another option for the grouping the Misc > section. Use the same ordering as found in the about screen > (I'm not sure if this changed in Emacs 28 from 27). Also, > you can put the C-e binding with the other package > commands. So I think something like this works pretty well: Thanks, I've now adjusted it along the lines you suggest with some minor adjustments.