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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279751 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: > Of course they are from different families, otherwise how can one be > fixed-pitch and the other variable-pitch. It is rare for the same > family to provide both. On GNU/Linux, or at least on my machine, they are the same family in "emacs -Q" (Bitstream Vera Sans / Bitstream Vera Sans Mono). > Both have the height of 13, according to "C-u C-x =". And in a > debugger I see that both faces have the height attribute of 98 (in > units of 1/10 point). So it sounds like Emacs thinks these have the > same height, and still the line height changes by about 1 pixel > depending on whether I do or don't use the variable-pitch face on that > line. Maybe I'm missing something. Oh, I was so focussed on the x-height that I missed that you were discussing a difference in the line height. Do you observe this using the `C-h C-h' example? If yes, could the explanation be some difference in how the :box attribute we set in `help-key-binding' works on MS-Windows vs. on GNU/Linux? Just a guess.