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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281295 Archived-At: Joost Kremers writes: > On Mon, Dec 06 2021, Stefan Kangas wrote: >> FWIW, I think something like `package-selected-packages' is a minor >> abuse of customize, and one which to me is rather impractical: when >> synching my Init file between different machines, I don't necessarily >> want to have the same packages installed on all of them. > > For this very reason, I moved all of my settings out of Customize, set > `custom-file` to "~/.emacs.d/lisp/custom.el", which is consequently only used > for `package-selected-packages`, and keep this file out of the git repo. > > Sure, I can't use `package-install-selected-packages`, but most of my packages > are installed through `use-package` anyway, so I can live with that. And I can't > use Customize, but that's also just a slight annoyance. That sounds less than ideal, indeed. So this should be a prime candidate for moving out of customize, and perhaps one early user of the new persistent variable/sqlite support.