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From: Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Jeremy Bryant <jb@jeremybryant.net>,
	Philip Kaludercic <philipk@posteo.net>,
	Andrea Corallo <acorallo@gnu.org>, Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org>,
	Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding AUCTeX to core Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2024 15:39:11 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADwFkm=c0dfeHwHf=KDtuGmB7BqFLpRNZiT2_kk=D2VD=YUnkQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvcyoqu6jq.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

> Telling us which versions are "safe" is already what maintainers do when
> they bump the version number, so it's not necessarily extra work.
> And it's much less work than sync'ing changes between two branches with
> unrelated history, like what the Org guys do, what the CEDET guys
> tried to do (and failed doing), what the Gnus guys did (and stopped
> doing at some point), what Alan does with CC-mode, etc...

The "etc." there is not to be underestimated either, BTW.

We have several open bugs with packages that are years or even a decade
plus out-of-synch.  Even when everyone is still collaborating -- which
is not necessarily the case given the time scales involved with Emacs --
it still is a pain.

When people stop maintaining packages, for legitimate reasons such as
lack of interest, life, etc., it's more of an uphill battle.

Our experience here tells me that adding in even more opportunities for
that to happen is probably not what we want.



  reply	other threads:[~2024-06-09 19:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-28  8:48 Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release? Jeremy Bryant
2024-05-28 23:15 ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-28 23:56   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-29  5:59   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 11:44   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 15:27     ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-29 15:40       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-29 16:06       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 19:33         ` Andrea Corallo
2024-05-30 19:25           ` Adding AUCTeX to core " Jeremy Bryant
2024-05-30 19:33             ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-31 18:58               ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-07 22:00                 ` Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08  6:56                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08  9:40                   ` Arash Esbati
2024-06-08 15:25                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 15:49                     ` Po Lu
2024-06-09  3:54                       ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-09 19:39                         ` Stefan Kangas [this message]
2024-05-29 22:16         ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-29 22:19           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-05-30  6:25           ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30  6:33             ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-30  7:28               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-30  8:15                 ` Daniel Mendler via Emacs development discussions.
2024-05-30 15:20                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 20:35       ` Tassilo Horn
2024-05-29 22:04         ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-30  5:51           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 10:52             ` Arash Esbati
2024-05-30  5:49         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30  7:55         ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 11:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 11:53             ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 12:19               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-05-30 12:58                 ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 14:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 14:26                     ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 13:53           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30 14:05             ` Po Lu
2024-05-30 15:02               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-05-30  8:00         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-05-29 20:44     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-05-30  5:09       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-07 21:48         ` Moving core packages to ELPA [Was: Re: Why not include all ELPA packages in an Emacs release?] Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08  6:14           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08  8:10             ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-08  8:38               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 15:55                 ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-08 16:47                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08 16:59                     ` Michael Albinus
2024-06-07 21:55       ` Candidate packages for ELPA bundling " Jeremy Bryant
2024-06-08  1:44         ` Po Lu
2024-06-08  2:11           ` Dmitry Gutov
2024-06-08  2:46             ` Po Lu
2024-06-08  6:41               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08  6:54                 ` Po Lu
2024-06-08  7:47                   ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 15:06                     ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 16:24                       ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-06-08 15:09             ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08  6:25           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-06-08  6:48             ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 15:18           ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08 15:37             ` Po Lu
2024-06-08 15:53               ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-09  0:06                 ` Po Lu
2024-06-09  3:55                   ` Stefan Monnier
2024-06-08  6:55         ` Philip Kaludercic

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