From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Rename "window" to "pane" (after Emacs 27) Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2020 19:04:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <878sjgbbot.fsf@oitofelix.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="55916"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?Bruno_F=C3=83=C2=A9lix_Rezende_Ribeiro?= , Richard Stallman , Drew Adams , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Apr 01 19:05:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jJgoD-000EQB-Hm for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 19:05:45 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34946 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJgoC-0000qv-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:05:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40939) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jJgna-0000Iy-CY for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:05:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJgnY-0000ul-5i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:05:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-yb1-f182.google.com ([209.85.219.182]:35069) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1jJgnU-0000qR-BH; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 13:05:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-yb1-f182.google.com with SMTP id x63so452478ybx.2; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 10:05:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bh2SY6fNf6DLTSWhRSgCG+/4OekP/VJGqnh6uRyNYYw=; b=M+XRNKJBUzkc/BjEnXazPTV2Dn+a2bkK+rb606hmtAFx/VbFdhZPsHW0uUPSLF2jJn QvC4c4dnsQWJ+YBJobI/yC8w0RVsEZX03Z9it2N1qfgK8aB5GSPcJkg+3zDWohyqH2qX YfUOyLz+9kqgJWb1SjaaoRSfWywpNFELsRiDf6d24YRNu+wn/rWJEf++n0Jd6u633X09 xaGN+ERAi29hfvo5xviLCTdVmTp354UaCHHTWw8rywi5BRoikakGsycakW3j1ZaemRix RvkVVi9/zfheOi8SkAKSpuh8C+Z/P//BlLn5S2z++I973E8BqDkuFOc+NCm9GW4C7f3N gXqg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuY7cV0nBmLjTHG8hK1tC9itYRykqA9qtGIhyXk9Hm3ZmpyXMPNR SBKE71fqxRoWC7VIaRamQNKaIxbwWQ00jf3lxuE= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ65zrRHk97/HcRp4XnjAwAKSCn4M0uuy7GKI9So5zFpftP3vzAXZUih7LA0dHHPySlcW/v4RSIAtnhsmnsPaQ= X-Received: by 2002:a25:492:: with SMTP id 140mr15486679ybe.466.1585760698654; Wed, 01 Apr 2020 10:04:58 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.219.182 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:246210 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > > And would we then rename "frame" to "window", which > > We won't be able to do that before (almost) all legacy uses of "window" > are gone (and not just from Emacs's own code), which will take many many > years [...] I agree, and also like your summary here: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2014-01/msg00532.html > W.r.t using "panes", we could start by making a *forward compatibility* > library `pane.el` distributed via GNU ELPA containing aliases to > the current `window` functions and variables. This is an interesting idea, well worth considering. Best regards, Stefan Kangas