From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some more analysis of the 2020 Emacs User Survey Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:52:04 -0600 Message-ID: References: <87a6tkedw7.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="10303"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Arthur Miller , TEC Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 08 17:58:37 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kxv5x-0002b9-Mx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 17:58:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38748 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxv5w-0005sH-O2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:58:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46122) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxuzl-0000cd-Nx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:52:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-x62d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::62d]:46617) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kxuzg-0005vr-DV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 11:52:13 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-x62d.google.com with SMTP id v3so5927549plz.13 for ; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:52:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=1Prs4C2iM7mPnZJXYjyb2Mpq+ZCrchreWmWw6yHHk2g=; b=aezKZa6UAl7xQuqzflE6j3n6dVTHZyHcJUql6ykQ/Qhr2H+yFKMLjRXy0wTAI8dSQx bZQZwMb7ireQFjzdUCx7A4BVfhk9+MeL0dQ1Dk6LvTyPPHM1kIj2cQ4Fo82jqJT8KhbB O9RdC8pS80ZeEthbo5WRB2S69CD3iGGj0SQih2U8MB75gZFSXcg300lcRX+sUT2tmxIC RMhi+CfZ84awJsG/1mJa0RxXn4myz8aeVJLIDh8KMTHvK4jJVqSFGTs59+JFcztzjAXK D9w4LqLbjXrgoPrlFftsb34uFdAHtp+fNc4NYjUtwhlKlNyJwZ/HCxhw1ql4WARTVBzE nW1A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1Prs4C2iM7mPnZJXYjyb2Mpq+ZCrchreWmWw6yHHk2g=; b=UVtB6vwedgZ0ocmUDVnisxQGED2rmInws+TNHLe6MPkaapiOKmh/FBhRbG5dUpX2gM uJ1+uTrC3X56ZCjcX/LEU/SSZ50iPN5UnSZiSJJz7mZW0y4hP84ksrmo/fyZI9+F0FNn txWMaLitX1PWKnxfmJ8zpU7URPfR6HXsVfqa0+vqOV1FeDFAWoq9JTS6MmEe8s4xTM66 8oJDYv9qWfiy5CY+IFLNOGVlZyYptQPhkix1f6GRzbyCv7LdGCqDVSjl1ZSMKWg3LBZv WdxhHV3NayertlyZcnRG3DKselWnheA2p321KVqt3QRCv8SBZ6Ex9pODRHMXwNdvCBSj QBUQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530i7hqNpiHJ0P3gh1BqAyVukAeK+d83Sci48qQ882oC7HwOxBrl yE0hDO2tV6AfyiyGtZrOY0dNsI6sePIIMUZ7qJU= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxOfIXJafufH/xyMBq1pIUXnmiD6pN8ykX0P+joKAMqRr6L4NcVp13nTl9iGpMTJy0n2k/ld1mgpRF/UQr9nBA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:fb43:: with SMTP id iq3mr4725058pjb.175.1610124725063; Fri, 08 Jan 2021 08:52:05 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 8 Jan 2021 10:52:04 -0600 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::62d; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pl1-x62d.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:262761 Archived-At: Arthur Miller writes: > At least now we can rule out "windows like" shortcuts are important; > since CUA mode to be the least used. I wouldn't be so sure. Remember that we have a survivor bias in this survey: CUA mode would be more important to those users that did not stick around long enough to respond to the survey.