From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Back from 28.0.90 to master Date: Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:15:16 +0000 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="22123"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez , emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 10 14:19:38 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mvfoH-0005Yr-3C for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:19:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50104 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvfoF-0006Oy-6X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:19:35 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56004) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvfk9-0003KU-0E for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:15:21 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030] (port=34802 helo=mail-pj1-x1030.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mvfk6-00067T-NR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 08:15:20 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x1030.google.com with SMTP id j5-20020a17090a318500b001a6c749e697so8123646pjb.1 for ; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 05:15:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Oj2vbznE30Y+l1eBmf0so/2bkBG6f//D3FLJXp83MRs=; b=X2KnwKkxoGj7HzikBLLpUSnUGel1foVKHocO9rRPWHvkLnCPtI3MRoGYieYo+XdFFD Ar7u3F0AodYaYFiYuArlUNnYlM+jQUWRf86kVpLxVfsckANv7so+awXLuYJmHngOcz7Z jQruWkzbEFs5vedZFDnkNlvRTW4HOYY8vi+jR6m0xGSf+Rv4obFloFfBa+j9qdY5e+M4 VP/8ROue5KMAy/6S5X5+C/wHE9ydAGiW1DbG3lMiFRUeHp5sZruOqiZWgtvgIJpWQCXC M0jb9Imz6pSy4xcm5ROsSkevBQ7S55D5wiNPoDl4g7T3Qo+rDf2l7qaRUvoDUkvv/b0O ib/Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Oj2vbznE30Y+l1eBmf0so/2bkBG6f//D3FLJXp83MRs=; b=lpKC+kArZQmk8FYH6GVeXUkGVPa/qOxvdOTlO39AnBYX+fZUfZiwbiURmXPhQKQyKH l++SZVq2b7jPRCgL5pkuj65fHBrmSn3QTC+DfbSEVzluljR1ixEjeUgtpCXmgYeEnAwa PMW/9FPyIIPk3wcbUX1rJ1ZjFuI/ImgYnCfBqE/IwSqEM8qk7X0ft2GfplAnmWycIn7y PMkTem4lwfuutrCRfWvSrQVnPQABENJGToT7OqcKl56EiVUUHyfFJ9cSvqfai//KAlMR stWboesm3DQ3TXX/fMmWfFMWiOy4rshUkmjmnL++gbTy2B874GOp4al92pvT4Fnys2AF Thug== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5308H9j9IBmtxq12G2Qt9Agx/k2w/XgRbBQy+2b2Zwu9R/VTzpy6 +jLDXPCkrGDoqFNFmeQXT0ekGhgom6DZXWKkOWw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxGbJ3dcGCl4vHGig7ddogbRzGXerIwbOvnldZyIm/FjKdYtbGavFVJGDy4kBa2xZ5NNoRxtic6YZPptASq7cw= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:be10:: with SMTP id a16mr23601176pjs.133.1639142116727; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 05:15:16 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 10 Dec 2021 13:15:16 +0000 In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030 (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1030; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1030.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:281595 Archived-At: Pedro Andres Aranda Gutierrez writes: > Going back to master I have encountered the "mode-line" surprise. Why is > the default face for the mode line now variable pitch? It looks ugly to me. > If there is a vote on this, I'll be definitely '-1'. However, it's nice > that we had to try it. Thanks for that. You aren't providing any details about your machine or the fonts used. It seems to me that the default variable width font in some situations is not ideal (as in the screenshot Eli provided for his MS-Windows machine). Instead of protesting the switch based on that, I'd suggest we improve the way we pick the font so that we end up with something acceptable (or even good).