From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Tick Reduction Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:34:06 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87bl2hyzca.fsf@gnus.org> <835ysowoq8.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17999"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: larsi@gnus.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 19 09:36:40 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mnzNv-0004NL-QA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:36:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59428 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnzNu-0007I7-K7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 03:36:38 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:50742) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnzLZ-0004W4-60 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 03:34:13 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e] (port=39693 helo=mail-pj1-x102e.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mnzLX-0005BO-B5; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 03:34:12 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x102e.google.com with SMTP id y14-20020a17090a2b4e00b001a5824f4918so10480550pjc.4; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 00:34:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=Rhz8qknU8DdY4tlfXCKBMOW4kVm29BzulU/Pw+lYuLI=; b=KMyDmbFe5xVQgcLe+/D/t2TJ974kRvV1ZsWQhd+y1jrFHca7v0y6ka82D63n/M9sME iZYA0PSbGR7EvU98tsQFTxNA2pj4OcZP34Iks3ngoeDvi9nuw2ncN8tjCdyjdGF31btf z8q2/NSWZdOpymZk/C8aM2cB3gYqYUo9JYziBs8sgn2AoyThjnuYNqTp4ty+zmS6Ka5b I1Hes+yQGjWeTh0keSN3f6XMRu3CMx7y6JJ4ghNok9AL9g5df07GelnCg9lMLJF8SCXT kx/thF+RveKNLkCByZGNYP7iCEqjjLHFzHvUVSyfAE4u/PrMTwEze/T8QORe7C1pVgSZ +zYA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=Rhz8qknU8DdY4tlfXCKBMOW4kVm29BzulU/Pw+lYuLI=; b=qmynqbHD5egrOClJyQP+kTcZ5BPhh9MJF9N1gL9OO3NzBm4ll9FAfXIMNm+W3vZq6P v0PbCoK42rbhYArPMu15PO321Ad+T51q+cVeaflT4gVOvtypg2oJ+VDW1uVS9TSGgnS5 t/ej182WiP320qx/4uvA5xarXeZOe+axks1DPIcYnJ0vDamqplmohjq17brGOScA8gJf BUudCLBkioZQCeu4c/YPcickGOPbYR/koglO52gv4xQ88R/k3XVlbIr6Kv1MAH2/aHg+ mXnfaVN3qDV//efK2wgAnvSRxYK71MgZauLVEeP26yMg2K4Xbt4bGDaFRbeJu5tjdbBn U5zQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532NiUDlLL9LlWt0bTuroqVvrwkhPLcVZ2fmNO721SPNPMi2JEDb QToaQzS2cful/yjdjjTZTZaGtLfRDFab/CVswL+hoqS1 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxcpyhcwfOmPhM/4ovP4p4RSJtLs+fI6XNuNOuwhFz2z4gA+52nb6O+2CFL4YqvP3CV9VtjxjK0XAahkMuoZDQ= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:4414:: with SMTP id s20mr2601470pjg.132.1637310846454; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 00:34:06 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from 753933720722 named unknown by gmailapi.google.com with HTTPREST; Fri, 19 Nov 2021 09:34:06 +0100 In-Reply-To: <835ysowoq8.fsf@gnu.org> X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e (failed) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::102e; envelope-from=stefankangas@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x102e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -12 X-Spam_score: -1.3 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.3 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, PDS_HP_HELO_NORDNS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279737 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> My vote would be for expanding the docstring syntax to also handle these >> things, and I think it'd be natural to base it on Org-mode. > > You mean, actually load Org for displaying those, including the doc > strings? That's a non-starter, since Org is a very large (to put it > mildly) package, and even just loading it takes a long time. We > should be able to display doc strings with bare-bones Emacs. No, I mean only the syntax. I see now that what I wrote was ambiguous on this point.