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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284412 Archived-At: John Yates writes: > On Fri, Jan 7, 2022 at 2:56 AM Stefan Kangas wrote: >> >> I don't know if this is what you mean, but one example that comes to >> mind is how straight.el is not at all integrated with package.el (which >> in your opinion, IIRC, could be rectified). > > As a very happy user of straight I feel that Radon Rosborough, > straight's author, is being unfairly maligned. I don't understand. How is it maligning, unfairly or otherwise, the author of some package to say that it could be integrated with another package? > He has integrated straight exactly as John Wiegley intended. From > use-package's README.md: I believe the discussion was about package.el, not use-package.el.