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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:320572 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: > I assumed the idea is rather to add keybindings maybe in `bindings.el` of > the form `[mumble] [ModifierMumble]-` to autoloaded > commands. So `windmove` would still not be preloaded and there'd be no > interaction with `windmove-default-keybindings`. That was my understanding too. > One proposal was to use `C-x 4` for `[mumble]`. Not sure what should > happen with the modifiers (to choose between the various options of > selecting another window, moving the current buffer to that other > window, ...). Someone (TM) should look at all that and come up with a concrete proposal, while considering consistency with other default bindings.