From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Some ideas with Emacs Date: Fri, 29 Nov 2019 12:37:31 +0100 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="181101"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: emacs-devel To: Anonymous Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 29 13:02:59 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1iaezC-000ks2-4X for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 13:02:58 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57860 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iaez9-00014D-UV for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 07:02:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:39651) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1iaeau-0002rs-HG for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:37:54 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iaear-0005AV-9N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:37:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f176.google.com ([209.85.214.176]:34649) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1iaeaq-00051Q-TE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 06:37:49 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f176.google.com with SMTP id h13so12824587plr.1 for ; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 03:37:44 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=r1oyvNs1jz3xSaAYi3ul1ZTOiviZcyBf7MMoGkgVBdk=; b=uN0wNbVy2fhxqvCCCbRMj8gmHMN1uNKhOfU2hDkUdYJQvALnzys90VM0GiBuPg5Fp5 p52ImKtRhicPrNNt7OU9Qqcmtd4JsnE1QWroPOrt9Z+PTdHvRZhNifBEfxXxZoSR/ZsB QVq3Un0H7PiuAL95mojWaQiLwoh/L6J+sjsTVzXNgn3FXK0Nz5/ALLCyD2ZMG21rjsc6 aYUl3FbWia2TSEk0w5C5ttuSNEBAa+ShA6JV9ztoaLB1mMT4BDCu7CCEk2bT1RX6GJok 0Aozc2wREo2HgFnnpuZnjaDsIrHSsDXkR9u26V5PPGnVxqZIoT9BgrecZ35gWVDwzT7/ 9gcA== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAW2jIV43q7Bt5m1gGqcmV4oKe5I+Jr9iuaCmgp0JULuaDjaOLzL y9eltEX1jyKbKT8U0O9Ra9wcwX9fltuvW12Irgs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqw7Dz74QUUQnwzAnVC8eRqmZcTh8sOta8oSdUz44aA1nnM91nJ+Hd8YKax+c5h3E+6NHa1lYphEDxG1jKQXGGo= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:1424:: with SMTP id j33mr18771479pja.2.1575027462457; Fri, 29 Nov 2019 03:37:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.214.176 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242866 Archived-At: Anonymous writes: > First, suggest to add more examples of functions in the tutorial, > most for Emacs Lisp Reference Manual, which can lower the learning > threshold. I think this is a fine idea that would make the manual more useful. But the elisp manual is also printed on paper, and is from what I understand already very long. Does it make sense to include examples in the info manual only? > Second, in developing the Emacs plugins, create a virtual > environment, like Python virtualenv, so that we can test the plugin > in the virtual environment so that we do not need to affect the > configuration outside the virtual environment. That's can implement > plugin development environment and configuration isolation. I think what you would do is something like "emacs -Q -l myenv.el" and then set up the load-path, requires, and whatever else you need in myenv.el. > Although my suggestion may be a little trivial and even useless. But > if my suggestions can help beginners like me go further, I think > it's worth it. We very much need to get more people hacking on Emacs. So any suggestion which could help us achieve that is welcome, I think. Best regards, Stefan Kangas