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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:264979 Archived-At: Dmitry Gutov writes: > On 17.02.2021 00:00, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: >> And again, I don't see what makes extending `interactive' so special >> here. We introduce new things in Emacs Lisp all the time when we think >> that that improves the language. > > You're extending it in an incompatible way, one that most third-party > code won't be able to make use of for years to come. I don't think the second half of this sentence is correct. Please see my compatibility macro `future-interactive' posted to this list.