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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:296691 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> Isn't that just `package-native-compile'? > > Oh, it's there! > Wee!! BTW, I think nil is the best default for that variable if and only if `native-comp-async-report-warnings-errors' also defaults to nil. Otherwise, users will have a rather scary warning buffer pop up in the middle of trying to do work (or playing `M-x pong', more likely). Maybe we could revisit the latter in time for Emacs 29, or at the latest before switching native compilation to on by default (Emacs 30?).