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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:280911 Archived-At: Elis Hirwing writes: > Oh, I'm sorry, I misread it as "Software as a Service", which then > would be SaaS... :-) The FSF has its own terminology here, to make things more "clear". Let's leave it unsaid if they accomplish that goal effectively or not; the point is that what the rest of the world calls "SaaS", the FSF calls "SaaSS" ("Software as a Software Substitute"). IOW, we are talking about the same thing here, and AFAIU typical webpaste services are not SaaS/SaaSS according to the FSF definition.