From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stefan Kangas <stefan@marxist.se> Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "If you're still seeing problems, please reopen." [Was: bug#25148:] Date: Mon, 18 Nov 2019 15:10:19 +0100 Message-ID: <CADwFkm=2R=hGvjChSH5j5NhVOLhX676MvhyUFp4g+VA0zc2zkA@mail.gmail.com> References: <20191117113054.49837.qmail@mail.muc.de> <87pnhq7mxg.fsf@gnus.org> <87bltaz9g4.fsf@telefonica.net> <877e3y5r6x.fsf@gnus.org> <0b8f8b31-29aa-1a33-f70d-38bdaeefc6e5@yandex.ru> <87y2we4boo.fsf@gnus.org> <7c8e41f2-23e1-868b-4db9-e4f800675ee2@yandex.ru> <87lfse4ag9.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="246110"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_Fuentes?= <ofv@wanadoo.es>, Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>, Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru> To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Nov 18 15:11:11 2019 Return-path: <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1iWhkC-0011ng-0M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 15:11:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:34524 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org>) id 1iWhkA-0004qP-DS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:11:06 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:52619) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from <stefankangas@gmail.com>) id 1iWhjd-0004qG-Q1 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:10:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <stefankangas@gmail.com>) id 1iWhjc-0002Gl-LS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:10:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172]:32871) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from <stefankangas@gmail.com>) id 1iWhjc-0002G4-GU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 09:10:32 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id ay6so9875755plb.0 for <emacs-devel@gnu.org>; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:10:32 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=TcKcqv+oz0BoZuiSysbs9+4nC56HGyIXcX5XRlPXv7c=; b=lk/E/IAgqeQlratE6OmzleZlHkxY727WxunHomOuN9qnSCfZ/M840SSbeJRygZJcTl 5fMAHjz5efsR41gV1rz+8HU+OaFB8qnnlnGco1ICc1ckca4SuZ2eQSl35iJfGJynxmpJ RdaZhv7dUi+s/PKJwkwXmxNKdTZGEY+8ktrYv8FUSTqq1k39yM9hzGBccEYc7TlW4C+U ftf4lOrW4rsO+LMt/A56wHp05VW4SuRCU8ue+KEsEg4ty+y0jZvscp55DYiHMB19isKB OloNfG7t5pF5YOROMvnD5upr/6TSOe3RuBO9NqFQfLUcPwgAFRZyDkqrHrPFxf/ZDxHx EpvQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUgCNILa4rWxcJ8UUpKIylLCTPOqNhuom6Mn6ytJ3CDsigvu1pK FDX2JA5Vx6rCwmmIhc2Sbj6AIlZ1oQbVPVpo2nY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqykWDh5ea4XEiEfGTXI+zJUYF/ZqRFjlCISiIb5oFnFartzXPlpcIJSC/TyAvyOI9Oe/7Xx2OwHMJ8GhjSzjsI= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:a40f:: with SMTP id y15mr40766183pjp.106.1574086230997; Mon, 18 Nov 2019 06:10:30 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87lfse4ag9.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.214.172 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." <emacs-devel.gnu.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/options/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel> List-Post: <mailto:emacs-devel@gnu.org> List-Help: <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-devel>, <mailto:emacs-devel-request@gnu.org?subject=subscribe> Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" <emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org> Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:242368 Archived-At: <http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/242368> Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes: > > They don't know that. And a certain percentage *will* be too shy to do > > anything for fear of bothering anybody. > > OK, I'll start saying "send a mail to reopen" or something. I'll update my yasnippets do the same. I think saying "please reply to this email with your observations" should be sufficient, rather than adding the full instructions for how to reopen the bug. If the user clicks "reply", it will reach me and I can forward it to the bug tracker and reopen the bug. Best regards, Stefan Kangas