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That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256364 Archived-At: Eduardo Mercovich writes: > - But if you see no particular problem now with the proposed steps, I > beg you to consider the possibility of giving it a try, going forward > all together. In this case, I will start it in a separate thread and > make the work to integrate everything as proposed. FWIW, I think the proposed process sounds good. Why not try it? It doesn't bind us to do anything in particular, and it seems to me that Eduardo has experience in carrying out surveys like these. Worst case, the information we collect is just not very useful and we move on. But I find it more likely that we would learn something interesting. Just my two cents.