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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:279729 Archived-At: Lars Ingebrigtsen writes: > I think it would be natural to do all "strings" in doc strings as > monospace, though. Except for when you want to say things like: This "frobnicates" the turbo encabulator. IOW, where the thing in quotes are just regular words. I'm positive we have such cases, but I can't remember where. > I think going full Org in the doc strings would be excessive -- it's > pretty easy to detect Emacs Lisp. Yes, it must be slimmed down to its absolute bare essentials. IOW, we should consider only those parts that we see a need for. BTW, Markdown has a nice way to mark monospace blocks, if we want to avoid relying on heuristics or simply provide a fire-escape if it fails: ``` like this ``` Although it is far less powerful than what Org-mode does, it is also much simpler and less noisy.