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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268989 Archived-At: Jim Porter writes: > On 5/4/2021 9:12 AM, =C3=93scar Fuentes wrote: >> Stefan Kangas writes: >> >>> The way I suggest we carry this out is an experiment on master for 30 >>> days, similarly to how we recently did with unbinding `M-o'. This woul= d >>> allow us to gather feedback and see how well this works in practice. >> >> FWIW, I just tried both 0.15 and 0.10 and IMO it improves readability. Thanks for testing. >> There are some negative consequences, though, like the "line" of >> display-fill-column-indicator-mode losing any apparience of continuity. Given how that mode is implemented, by setting `display-fill-column-indicator' to ?\u2502, I don't see how it could be improved without a complete redesign. It doesn't look like this was implemented with `line-spacing' in mind. > I'm not sure if there's an easy way to ensure the fill line looks > continuous in this case, but if that could be improved, it would help in > a few other areas even if line-spacing weren't increased. For example, > with `org-prettify-entities' set to t, subscripts add a bit to the line > height, causing the fill line to appear discontinuous. Likewise, I > believe overlines add a bit to the line height too. Do you have a recipe to reproduce this?