From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Elias_M=C3=A5rtenson?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 10:34:35 +0800 Message-ID: References: <834mdd6llx.fsf@gnu.org> <7fbb8bc7-9a97-4bad-a103-a6690a35241d@default> <834mdc5w6o.fsf@gnu.org> <838u2hu6aq.fsf@gnu.org> <871t899tde.fsf@gnus.org> <83y4ahru04.fsf@gnu.org> <83fuwproyf.fsf@gnu.org> <837fi0sz29.fsf@gnu.org> <83egc8qzjh.fsf@gnu.org> <87egc7evu3.fsf@gnus.org> <83io1jpt4u.fsf@gnu.org> <87povqhj25.fsf@gnus.org> <87povqe5tr.fsf@gnus.org> <87ziuta4l4.fsf@gnus.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11416d40724e8f052c52ac60 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1456108508 12191 80.91.229.3 (22 Feb 2016 02:35:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 02:35:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 22 03:35:08 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aXgL2-0004vd-0q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 22 Feb 2016 03:35:04 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46006 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXgL1-0004yC-2V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 21:35:03 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58363) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXgKg-0004xh-1Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 21:34:47 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXgKa-0005CR-QN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 21:34:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22b]:33065) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aXgKa-0005CI-Af; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 21:34:36 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id k196so118907431vka.0; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:34:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=OKvtHtNKYKpTtFHV5s+l9b1W1QIkdErIeQItc01ePAQ=; b=SvZbm69SN4nM075iMnr8Tmswk97oBcGQWuYJL0InmCaZfDHKiRUZOqqiMXlUY6xCNh MvCHVtK7DQtPNUT8W0mHjFwiWdWz1Hghw2myxEy6ViNcdHhmIfMwIr2mrZnZbctnqCiZ dK1/fRqWgj1bf46+UElplc1y5fHQtO2MT4JwrR9v6hgMz+KduR/WuKLeOLYHXpouFp9K R0BULzYxC3VI7f/bmn1grSKkz6mkGa/wYa3ypRoyn0Hgz03wFs4RVV0u+6UgnT/FBGoN s6yOTPyHBhsX8luffbebFLKQG3P4KCxAMarAhL8d/cit8LBbtbdgo2b76J/b6+Kk+hGx js5w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=OKvtHtNKYKpTtFHV5s+l9b1W1QIkdErIeQItc01ePAQ=; b=i6UckiY6AYTr9gp6g9dPyraDle2C/63Xznu7fh+U5z8L+yN7CDjv/vO6AJ3jy2XZZr smSPxbkIhYZ1usJdosEFJHSze8mrOMaDBPHuxdpGptq9re2gfEeCquiMJJbjoipC71oi z9K3Q11Fef/3oAy19m4sYRU86uKTq+5HM7wIfN8PMMg5EAhqDrxBQgn+jzNqkApJWbm4 9t5MMT3Uh0N9HjFzLaUox6BpahXICzGJlzysP96vetFqLLJvklp4evCWa4tLXWDzWXar qkG9DpvvQPQpnLsg+PZlFnO7Tfrmp/J0gJkdZFaVeyFjHoz4EBA2t/wK5r2S7oSKqW7D PjPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORITzoKA+NaHQaGrKapPIegSOfZOKlIieJ2hiZihL+CpQ/0s+ki3MeVmuQFC17Vp8ix5TA4mcbyidXVTg== X-Received: by 10.31.42.198 with SMTP id q189mr11125981vkq.60.1456108475663; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:34:35 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.176.3.146 with HTTP; Sun, 21 Feb 2016 18:34:35 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87ziuta4l4.fsf@gnus.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:200420 Archived-At: --001a11416d40724e8f052c52ac60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 22 February 2016 at 09:58, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Elias M=C3=A5rtenson writes: > > > It's like it's fine if you're typing in lower case characters for them > > to match upper case, too, but if you've bothered to type an upper case > > character, then you probably don't want lower case characters to match= . > > > > This is how Emacs behaves today, is it not? > > Yes, and that's my point. I'd expect character folding when doing > searches to work in an analogous fashion: If I type `C-s =C3=A9', I would= be > surprised if it found "e", but not the other way around. But you are Danish, are you not? As such, I would have thought that when you search for =C3=B8, you would want to find a Swedish =C3=B6? (this is th= e inverse of the natural Swedish behaviour). Regards, Elias --001a11416d40724e8f052c52ac60 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 2= 2 February 2016 at 09:58, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> = wrote:
Elias M=C3=A5rten= son <lokedhs@gmail.com> writ= es:

>=C2=A0 It's like it's fine if you're typing in lower case c= haracters for them
>=C2=A0 to match upper case, too, but if you've bothered to type an = upper case
>=C2=A0 character, then you probably don't want lower case character= s to match.
>
> This is how Emacs behaves today, is it not?

Yes, and that's my point.=C2=A0 I'd expect character folding= when doing
searches to work in an analogous fashion: If I type `C-s =C3=A9', I wou= ld be
surprised if it found "e", but not the other way around.

But you are Danish, are you not? As such, I would h= ave thought that when you search for =C3=B8, you would want to find a Swedi= sh =C3=B6? (this is the inverse of the natural Swedish behaviour).

Regards,
Elias
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