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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:243771 Archived-At: --000000000000d19ba0059aeb98be Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, 20:05 Juanma Barranquero, wrote: > > I think this proposal is unlikely to gain traction. But if it were, in a > Lisp context colon (:) would make more sense IMHO, as it is used in Common > Lisp to separate the namespace ("package", in CL-speak) from the symbol > name. That would make easier to adapt to CL-style namespaces, if they were > implemented in Emacs some day (which I think won't ever happen, if previous > discussions on the subject are to be believed). > I just want to voice my 100% agreement that the minus character should be changed. Its double use is, as mentioned in the original post, incredibly annoying to read. In my package, gnu-apl-mode, all symbols are prefixed with gbu-apl- and it's full of these issues. Whether the character is / or : or anything else, I could not care less. All I want is a symbol that isn't much used for anything else. The benefit of / is that a lot of third party packages already use it. > --000000000000d19ba0059aeb98be Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, 30 Dec 2019, 20:05 Juanma Barranquero, <lekktu@gmail.com> wrote:

I think this proposal is unlikel= y to gain traction. But if it were, in a Lisp context colon (:) would make = more sense IMHO, as it is used in Common Lisp to separate the namespace (&q= uot;package", in CL-speak) from the symbol name. That would make easie= r to adapt to CL-style namespaces, if they were implemented in Emacs some d= ay (which I think won't ever happen, if previous discussions on the sub= ject are to be believed).

I just want to voice my 100% agreement that = the minus character should be changed. Its double use is, as mentioned in t= he original post, incredibly annoying to read. In my package, gnu-apl-mode,= all symbols are prefixed with gbu-apl- and it's full of these issues.= =C2=A0

Whether the chara= cter is / or : or anything else, I could not care less. All I want is a sym= bol that isn't much used for anything else.=C2=A0

The benefit of / is that a lot of third party= packages already use it.
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