From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?Q?Elias_M=C3=A5rtenson?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: master has switched from Automake to GNU Make Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2017 01:57:44 +0800 Message-ID: References: <58CB9F6B.5080806@gmx.at> <83h92sz2j9.fsf@gnu.org> <58CBAEB7.5030601@gmx.at> <58CBBC6C.8000104@gmx.at> <58D380FF.1070103@gmx.at> <58D3C84E.5080808@gmx.at> <58D4E0D6.2070101@gmx.at> <86mvcap85t.fsf@stephe-leake.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114469c005b798054b91d9ab X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1490464710 18130 195.159.176.226 (25 Mar 2017 17:58:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2017 17:58:30 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Mar 25 18:58:26 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1crpxF-0003gn-8x for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 18:58:21 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38167 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crpxL-0002Fo-Cr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:58:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37422) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crpwi-0002Fi-Rm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:57:49 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crpwi-0005rB-1y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:57:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x230.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::230]:36339) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1crpwh-0005qh-TA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 13:57:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x230.google.com with SMTP id s68so17450430vke.3 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:57:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YCXyGOL+Y57nvjiEszpTViRlNFHRthGczbK6rSt945g=; b=C/spEugslkbjlMES7UR323ykE1VtRjmwcGq9OInjKnJx0CxRwIe9BCoVyjjecRF5WZ X5LYYj1JLspzuA2luNXerH1UIAu0S6MdoPatLWQ+mFMX4WmwsLJ8W/OO3KJqXA81kJ+T HbLTmEmeCPE/wtYlYAz3U4R2ut09d0hcif8h12hmAF6+Z0g6d7KqIjpndCCAdLe1RJUT TKEuOnamVnD++mhlHnrVFqkD6xXe1enLLUFwHp19IORgc8P7QeHRdjj3KdPhfKAjvXs0 ar1XZFVob39mA0Z4SK9xIHxrks0KW8SJPhfwtZd2wKyCFN3BrCLu1GbA1IaCk63Gfdvl oJgA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YCXyGOL+Y57nvjiEszpTViRlNFHRthGczbK6rSt945g=; b=a+W7XrQdIygcVDlV2FsXWfjPBO4lUU5y4iY/b++z/m8aRRvKfLwSTB3fj40riz/4zd EK36A+zap1D5oWmH6aS98HK5ZplEWHab5q3SuEmhzzkI3fruFzp/35Ucg6eYMf2NYnow /dS9wFJJUnZo7zEF3MIGjq+hjy01+O+6BhT1itSF6rMkbQXR2Ne4veiDQWFF08hDj3X9 yGRiCjdDiLbkqu+AgB+ikriMSJsMndrgxAd4PwVLSvKm5xmmAYPw09+8SQ5seoZsNgDe adnfbHig3n/g2gyEeKyalRFWkj0ftQkpPj/rKREF3ykPwlFoYrdNM65vWE8Oz1gOz9jP Zr7w== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H19OD9tpEqbp2GsdtqNc0I9pvz/rmWL/x2LWjTDSKLEz9bCaG49TmlZRqFi2ULkp/1ls3By8KQx4jKPLQ== X-Received: by 10.31.53.136 with SMTP id c130mr4680228vka.45.1490464666923; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:57:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.103.107.2 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:57:44 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.103.107.2 with HTTP; Sat, 25 Mar 2017 10:57:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:213351 Archived-At: --001a114469c005b798054b91d9ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 26 Mar 2017 1:37 AM, "Stefan Monnier" wrote: The kind of ref I'm thinking of would be more like a commit-id embedded in the commit message of every commit created by a rebase, together with a tweak to "git merge" so that it uses those commit ids as additional parents when looking for a common ancestor. There are times I read old mailing list messages where some development was discussed and they mention something in some particular commit. If the history has been rewritten (or a branch was deleted) I can't get the full picture. For this reason I'm personally very much against the idea of modifying or deleting anything from a repository. I know me saying this will do little to change anyone's mind, but I felt the need to justify the position of someone like me who sees the repository as a very strong record of the history. Regards, Elias --001a114469c005b798054b91d9ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On 26 Mar 2017 1:37 AM, "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:

The kind of ref I'm thinking of would be more like a commit-id embedded=
in the commit message of every commit created by a rebase, together with a tweak to "git merge" so that it uses those commit ids as additi= onal
parents when looking for a common ancestor.
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There are times I read old mai= ling list messages where some development was discussed and they mention so= mething in some particular commit. If the history has been rewritten (or a = branch was deleted) I can't get the full picture.

For this reason I'm personally very much = against the idea of modifying or deleting anything from a repository.=C2=A0=

I know me saying this w= ill do little to change anyone's mind, but I felt the need to justify t= he position of someone like me who sees the repository as a very strong rec= ord of the history.=C2=A0

Regards,=C2=A0
Elias=C2=A0
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