From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: hyperscope Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2020 15:18:49 -0300 Message-ID: References: <20201104161200.tyeo2r5jibdahukb@Ergus> <234bba7f-fd5c-ed39-8a5e-8a6ce3125bf1@inventati.org> <87blgbwjsl.fsf@alphapapa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19410"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Adam Porter , Emacs developers To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 06 19:19:40 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kb6Kq-0004vP-23 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 19:19:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:52684 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb6Ko-0004Zf-Vr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 13:19:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53012) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb6KH-00049C-5J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 13:19:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-pf1-x433.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::433]:41950) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kb6KE-00040K-V6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 13:19:04 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-pf1-x433.google.com with SMTP id c20so2089759pfr.8 for ; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 10:19:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=9lH0DVgynGd1dxp2RAwKdkb/igKLgaBNYRPIGA/eO18=; b=cEfOfMUSGJWSNHKUPhcJNzBHwqMsgYUm0p+rq3te8Vlic/1wxL5nLU0f6WP3wN1dVD VuzMuonHwdeshPDnH7nOfyTRYMZ9aHzGlS6oQhMtb8GHydcExE5deU8XAJUqesOndnFq gBPk9ZriQDR2/EJl8n+kxyOww2wjLjQRtJXrxoSMUCQyC+XH4rQniVaVuVo+ahTlbPVU JXHTn3fFzWcYxaA2426ql0hOIOSIY/3Yl2URLWTc95PfJjhA/1r3J2YNe+XLthUKLebV DnOPca/dVFrDX+c+94CuE9cfS8aXQ6zVFF6UBWcUrSuK2Y1DWOUP8ZMdHCR2DsUI4Ml/ gtfA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9lH0DVgynGd1dxp2RAwKdkb/igKLgaBNYRPIGA/eO18=; b=nsYPYmCDnBWVIY+hT/rnW8mYY1wB9rISZu7Gw26YoVuoVmkah2Jc9zTvUYe26NoEfl Vfp3cbskhgQlzr+j+wAewJOfwcx8VOM0qAs6lqySw0k8x4TxQFOLPUvmdT+jquAvH/kh sSAfXA/D62WuQOYiBS9Aha2PEAJTB9wVgRPcQ2pCE9iQJd81psepqhK5J2uezL5syjd8 dKYdMCyrwdLYzRzqSYbiJv4lVbYsCZJS8w+O6LEaMafUmd/OhvfM1sX7kPr1BWzzLG1A xiqNxI2NZVJlVVfxU3DstzUZ3LbPGHEZCho3X4EFPpiSUXA51ILLbDbUyEd8YZz8xMsI cKcw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532I+o8c9V4nOFo0YiqsyrLdX2BaR4r4uOn0aXbtCABvKJzI2Nt+ rPPtafourQLn4PFXIesyq2cOwAZ63MQe+evhfxM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz5FpFhqmYw/Y9djDjZeHHg+dRzP1VnEsNSy8CDnca+uueNK4gvfIjXXSdXAotV74bn0ibm6PDscOWWz2F3cUI= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:9983:0:b029:18b:a0bb:4c70 with SMTP id k3-20020aa799830000b029018ba0bb4c70mr3188282pfh.31.1604686741037; Fri, 06 Nov 2020 10:19:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::433; envelope-from=eduardoochs@gmail.com; helo=mail-pf1-x433.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:258840 Archived-At: On Fri, 6 Nov 2020 at 06:10, Jean Louis wrote: > > * Adam Porter [2020-11-06 00:56]: > > Jean Louis writes: > > > > > Who can help me check out the icomplete-vertical branch that I may > > > try? I am working on application Hyperscope that is based on > > > Engelbart's work and it uses browsable tabulated-list-mode. Sometimes > > > there are many choices, the list can be really long. Index of specific > > > pages in PDF file can be thousands and thousands. Of course I have > > > implemented incremental narrowing by using Helm and I wish to switch > > > it to something built-in.q I wish to give those to GNU ELPA soon. But > > > with focus on least number of packages from outside. > > > > > > Insight with some bugs: > > > https://gnu.support/images/2020/11/2020-11-05/2020-11-05-22:14:01.ogv > > > > That looks interesting. It reminds me of Semantic Synchrony, an Emacs > > project which seems to not be very well known. This video in particular > > reminds me of yours: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2vX2oZmUUM See > > also: https://github.com/synchrony/smsn > > Ineed it looks very similar by concept. I will study that. My system > was meant primarily for me so that I can quickly pin point what I need > in the index and jump to specific reference. It is like augmented > bookmark system. Because it is database, once link type is defined > there is no limit to it. > > Hyperscope is meant to: > > - dwell in eww buffer, press w and later just insert hyperlink with > good description > > - dwell in any browser, obtain reference and quickly enter into > database > > - obtain reference from online video or specific time when to play > video, and quickly enter database, or specific line in specific > file, to jump quickly there, or PDF specific page or specific search > term. Not all readers provide support for that. > > - to obtain specific mail reference and jump to that specific mail > > - use various indexes to enter into database, to quickly jump to very > specific places > > - to represent the database by various means, converting to Org is > easy, but it could as well be dynamically published on WWW, Gopher, > Gemini > > - to allow multi user knowledge information editing or revisions (no > idea how to make revisions yet), remotely > > - to allow connections to other databases, meaning that only database > is running on server and with permissions some people can view it > and some people can edit it. > > - to provide feature for any kind of hyperlinks > > - raise collective IQ > > For now I have these types of links: > > Web > MPV play video at exact time > Local File > YouTube Video at exact time > YouTube Video > Dired Directory > Launch Program > Media > Info Node > PDF > HyperScope ID > Emacs Lisp > PDF Query > Org Heading > Org > PDF by Page Nr. > Set > DJVU > Note > Video Hi Jean Louis, do you have examples of the syntax of these links and of what we need to make them work? I am especially interested in "MPV play video at exact time", "Launch Program", "Media", "PDF by Page Nr." and "Set"... I am asking because one of the topics of my talk at the next EmacsConf (in a few weeks!) is how eev implements links to all these things, and I want to compare eev's approach with other packages. See: http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-pdf-like-intro.html http://angg.twu.net/eev-intros/find-audiovideo-intro.html I know org-player and org-pdftools, but I found them hard to set up. Thanks in advance, I hope =), Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2019.html http://angg.twu.net/emacsconf2020.html