From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Ochs Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Changes for emacs 28 Date: Mon, 7 Sep 2020 18:04:14 -0300 Message-ID: References: <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq.ref@Ergus> <20200906133719.cu6yaldvenxubcqq@Ergus> <83lfhnnew7.fsf@gnu.org> <20200906163418.3p2wuygb4osm76wa@Ergus> <20200906203807.u237c3h22oxwtmba@Ergus> <87tuwabm5a.fsf@gnus.org> <83a6y2nwo1.fsf@gnu.org> <87sgbt939z.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002f837005aebf8ea5" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23770"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Emacs developers To: Gregory Heytings Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 07 23:04:36 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOJY-00064N-IH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 23:04:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39498 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOJX-0006uE-JY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 17:04:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46040) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOIt-0006SD-AW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 17:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pj1-x1031.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::1031]:51417) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kFOIq-0007Hs-Oz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 17:03:55 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pj1-x1031.google.com with SMTP id a9so3969010pjg.1 for ; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 14:03:52 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=HWbdJ+SOvo/MqHzmwQon30/NxkxkcrCHCHH+v/O4lxM=; b=gl05erdavUvIyK4DubuETlxF+7OIuRJ3KbIC08ILWOuR/xmpvVfbr3qk31eP8Xlf5g t3lTN8eqMUv25URqerRfkDoNGNmvBH92icpFvnqk56B/5zg9XnYsU7kvV+63WX9BjdVU OdSMBKo2sRESWuv94wl59iFEHWNODf0hz8yMY/lo8jPjmiGCGA/6sXQ8mAzUwO2ALNoe 3rmX09IzzwKoZTxHDiOcHiDVOSisXJCutZ4krK4R/4D7JxymPsb2AsYkuIjl2mDANlIE n+VGwGobb23EfO/+ZjFwGwouxtZ3yyoQqsFz6JnxefWx60UFHFgBMrHa22/pkYwzq9AA 1FXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=HWbdJ+SOvo/MqHzmwQon30/NxkxkcrCHCHH+v/O4lxM=; b=IabawCB/iBHNxnJJc6Wru/l2LW84TKULBPc4FPNh2pkdEm8YAkwKuT6Y7PVvHpp3jw 75AVH50TqLKSH+/ke+NmVSwgUEjftEpl1E4mje88QzrhOCu8Grji+n9pLUw2Tr3tpHVK /Xgg6pLYtq16k8qWUUaccLVf8evuYR2sHfwtmHq4YJFL/lkRTJl0ulrIiWxH4Y42nVG/ jqU4JpXcjSlgzxDitylshnGweBbXygCoPlv7tcT+HfuQjTB9nyg9+BCF/sNlCKobs2fG 4IdmOLULOzPczmZoBjJMRa+oy/xKJvhZbKQQy2Qq5vQwSIQPYiXDcd7c0LS5fcsvcMtx vqoQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533+lGuomkLXPKy2uacA5gaOfEMBfE4IZLCHraLR8BX4rgS+2qJc fnUy6+c98Xq4h3cdeSfsinf6IXU8gArGh/zdlEg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxjfEnJ6TQde4xsSuh8M46mpXVYGTx5v5/oFVXHkBM9WEcUxPUXRuVQRUjzK7N1+uCgSofRhw1p1AnHjhBYnQ0= X-Received: by 2002:a17:90a:e207:: with SMTP id a7mr982514pjz.117.1599512631016; Mon, 07 Sep 2020 14:03:51 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::1031; envelope-from=eduardoochs@gmail.com; helo=mail-pj1-x1031.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:254677 Archived-At: --0000000000002f837005aebf8ea5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Is there a way to have both standard Emacs and Doom Emacs available at the same time? Is there a way to run the standard Emacs and then make it load the Doom code? Where can we find instructions for that? Is Doom Emacs user-friendly to long-time Emacs users that would want to turn the Doom layer on for only a few minutes each week? Cheers & thanks in advance, Eduardo Ochs On Mon, 7 Sep 2020, 10:06 Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions., wrote: > > > > > The defaults of emacs are really, really bad. And making the whole thing > > like what you get with DOOM Emacs is going to cost you lots of hours > > reading documentation and experimenting with your configuration. > > > > That's just wrong. If you want Doom Emacs, you just have to type two > commands: > > git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/hlissner/doom-emacs ~/.emacs.d > > ~/.emacs.d/bin/doom install > > The first commands takes two seconds to complete, the second one about > five minutes (it downloads and compiles about 200 MB of code, fonts, > icons, ...). Then you start Emacs, and you're done. That's clearly not > "lots of hours". > > --0000000000002f837005aebf8ea5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Is there a way to have both standard Emacs and Doom = Emacs available at the same time? Is there a way to run the standard Emacs = and then make it load the Doom code? Where can we find instructions for=C2= =A0that? Is Doom Emacs user-friendly to long-time Emacs users that would wa= nt to turn the Doom layer on for only a few minutes each week?

=C2=A0 Cheers & thanks in advanc= e,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Eduardo Ochs

On Mon, 7 Se= p 2020, 10:06 Gregory Heytings via Emacs development discussions., <emacs-devel@gnu.org> wrote:

>
> The defaults of emacs are really, really bad. And making the whole thi= ng
> like what you get with DOOM Emacs is going to cost you lots of hours <= br> > reading documentation and experimenting with your configuration.
>

That's just wrong.=C2=A0 If you want Doom Emacs, you just have to type = two
commands:

git clone --depth 1 https://github.com/hlissner/do= om-emacs ~/.emacs.d

~/.emacs.d/bin/doom install

The first commands takes two seconds to complete, the second one about
five minutes (it downloads and compiles about 200 MB of code, fonts,
icons, ...).=C2=A0 Then you start Emacs, and you're done.=C2=A0 That= 9;s clearly not
"lots of hours".

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