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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299229 Archived-At: On Sat, 5 Nov 2022 at 13:50, Richard Stallman wrote: > > I now have tested it -- a simple case now works. If someone tells me > how to install the s package from NonGNU ELPA, I could test that too. > (I have never installed anything from ELPA.) Hi Richard, I sometimes run emacs -Q in empty/fake home directories, with: rm -Rv /tmp/fake-home-dir/ mkdir /tmp/fake-home-dir/ cd /tmp/fake-home-dir/ HOME=$PWD emacs -Q and then I install packages by executing some of the sexps below with my favorite variant of `C-e C-x C-e': (require 'package) (package-initialize) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("nongnu" . "https://elpa.nongnu.org/nongnu/")) (add-to-list 'package-archives '("melpa" . "https://melpa.org/packages/")) (package-refresh-contents) (package-install 's) (describe-package 's) Notes: 1) If you don't want NonGNU ELPA ou MELPA just skip the corresponding `add-to-list's, 2) `(package-refresh-contents)' usually takes several seconds to run, 3) The usual instructions for installing packages are like this: (info "(emacs)Package Menu") Buenas Salenas, Eduardo Ochs http://angg.twu.net/eepitch.html