From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Per_Starb=E4ck?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Right-to-left GUI in pretest Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:08:33 +0100 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1329315125 25578 80.91.229.3 (15 Feb 2012 14:12:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 14:12:05 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 15 15:12:02 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RxfaQ-0006mZ-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 15:11:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41271 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RxfXU-0004SB-0U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:08:56 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47282) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RxfXI-0004RB-PF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:08:53 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RxfX9-0000SA-BJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:08:44 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ww0-f41.google.com ([74.125.82.41]:35830) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RxfX9-0000Rw-64 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 09:08:35 -0500 Original-Received: by wgbdt11 with SMTP id dt11so5015801wgb.0 for ; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:08:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:sender:date:x-google-sender-auth:message-id:subject :from:to:content-type; bh=2wg5vN8iOSNH825MYdnT8wpV1NaGidhHPn1yfioJZFY=; b=c/HVBXoyDAFJURexDEvPNzm6nfgC6eEmr+ECwltNTMae7J4scFRGrAz3bs9CJWvdRq +W+ew2BfEMQ9LHLgm7UFG9BGhjKy9TBtF/Tav6ul0O3lJQ4tlQOv+iV2+L+qL+SgvPpV UaWtbDcMVIx2IwL+f1DROEQFjeVRzg1Q41sJ8= Original-Received: by 10.180.79.229 with SMTP id m5mr35667744wix.6.1329314913580; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:08:33 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.223.126.82 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:08:33 -0800 (PST) X-Google-Sender-Auth: VrQ7nsWCWXqWtbFMtjQrLaWqG1g X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.82.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148627 Archived-At: Using a locale with right-to-left writing, for example LANG=ar_EG.utf8 src/emacs-24.0.93.1 I get the menu-bar and the tool-bar in the reverse direction, that is with the Help menu on the left and the File menu on the right, for example. This is a GTK thing. At least with ./configure --with-x-toolkit=motif it's not like this. If emacs was localized with non-English menus this would be good, but since these things are in English anyway I think it only looks strange. (Also the mirroring affects the meanings of the values left and right for tool-bar-position.)