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From: "T.V. Raman" <tv.raman.tv@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>,
	rms@gnu.org, jarekczek@poczta.onet.pl,  emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Info: Console Vs GUI difference?
Date: Fri, 1 Nov 2013 10:21:27 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADkJX2j09fasUpX48hgHbumwhe1Bv9-fThWOe_r=SdgEOaO18g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <83eh70d12m.fsf@gnu.org>

Eli,
The advice on Info-extract-pointer you refer to was probably
introduced by me to track this problem down.  Emacspeak used to
advice that function in the Emacs 21 timeframe as well from
memory -- but to the best of my knowledge, it hasn't depended on
advising Info-extract-pointer --


On 11/1/13, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>> Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 16:23:17 -0400
>> From: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>>     But why do you call it a problem or an error? Since the signals are
>>     caught, everything is alright. That's what I think and said so in bug
>>
>>     report 15670 [1]. And that's the reason why the bug was closed as "not
>> a
>>     bug".
>>
>> It may not cause incorrect functioning, but it sounds like a cause
>> of slowdown.  Unless there is a reason why redisplay is supposed
>> to raise a signal, this is making Emacs slower than it needs to be,
>> and investigating the cause might be useful.
>
> The cause is clear.  Redisplay does not raise a signal, it just
> evaluates conditions of a menu bar item, to be able to display the
> "Next" item as disabled when there's no "next" node.  The Lisp code
> that is invoked by redisplay to do that throws an error that is
> supposed to be caught by that Lisp code.  However, Emacsspeak advises
> the Lisp function Info-extract-pointer, which is involved in this
> evaluation, with the result that the thrown error becomes visible.
> See the Lisp backtrace here:
>
>   http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15670#5
>
> and the Lisp code involved here:
>
>   http://debbugs.gnu.org/cgi/bugreport.cgi?bug=15670#14
>
> So the bottom line here is that the reason for the problem was a
> bad/suboptimal advice used by Emacsspeak to advise the Info functions
> in question.
>
>



      reply	other threads:[~2013-11-01 17:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-30  9:27 Info: Console Vs GUI difference? T.V. Raman
2013-10-30 12:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-30 21:46   ` T.V. Raman
2013-10-30 23:11     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-31 16:21       ` T.V. Raman
2013-10-31 18:02         ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-31 22:14           ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-01  1:32             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01  2:10               ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-01 12:23                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-01 16:55                   ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-01 18:34                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 20:24                       ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-01 20:36                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-02  0:17                           ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-02  2:04                             ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-03 15:51                               ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-03 19:02                                 ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-11-03 19:05                                   ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-03 21:19                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-11-04  3:10                                     ` Dmitri Paduchikh
2013-11-04 16:38                                       ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-02  7:04                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-02  1:39                           ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-02  8:06                             ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-11-02 15:35           ` T.V. Raman
2013-11-02 15:56             ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-11-02 16:35             ` Dmitri Paduchikh
2013-11-02 20:46               ` T.V. Raman
2013-10-30 13:46 ` Jarek Czekalski
2013-10-30 21:45   ` T.V. Raman
2013-10-31 20:23   ` Richard Stallman
2013-11-01  7:37     ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-11-01 17:21       ` T.V. Raman [this message]

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