From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "T.V. Raman" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.emacspeak.general,gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Request: Use message instead of message_with_string for user visible output? Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:11:41 -0700 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1382803901 328 80.91.229.3 (26 Oct 2013 16:11:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 16:11:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacspeak-request@cs.vassar.edu Sat Oct 26 18:11:46 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geeg-emacspeak@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from mail.cs.vassar.edu ([143.229.6.48]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Va6Sm-0007yn-Iy for geeg-emacspeak@m.gmane.org; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 18:11:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (mr48 [127.0.0.1]) by mail.cs.vassar.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE7162F82E; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from mail.cs.vassar.edu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 04240-02-2; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: by mail.cs.vassar.edu (Postfix, from userid 38) id AF4FB2F82B; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:11:42 -0400 (EDT) Old-Return-Path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=WrpKryEnxUFowkW+Fpn1MONqRd702nfUvKXL17gen2k=; b=ntsHndwpJMLZdWoYwWISKu4UX/xQLmXmVar2BOcBbJUj46R//AeHoMT4AMiPsEU+gj /4Vf+A1SUFAK0F9iCVLGutIx8jlmxWLcZfE4Z3ckzH7SOcdZL3FB8VOg8xQvyTt6VKDk B2LTuEuV5AFuRDquGCJG0ChWMhlCYoRjW0ABVhJpSLveWb19aNdNljWljIUTqDm4lQLN HcNGu4Bv2BBzMwOx+3E9fN4bxip19BACmKnB4eVZ44V1Pfg7+SEmKBprKCiul7wwt9Si sxCq0O+K3uhYNJGiUx/BoTd6sfzqsbM2QHtMk7hqOXcy76p6s5dapxattQAzFRtsqZ6t zQJw== X-Received: by 10.224.65.199 with SMTP id k7mr19341401qai.24.1382803902026; Sat, 26 Oct 2013 09:11:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at cs.vassar.edu Resent-Message-ID: Resent-From: emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/8344 X-Loop: emacspeak@cs.vassar.edu List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Precedence: list Resent-Sender: emacspeak-request@cs.vassar.edu Resent-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 12:11:42 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at cs.vassar.edu Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.emacspeak.general:3424 gmane.emacs.devel:164559 Archived-At: Hi, Emacspeak produces all its spoken feedback via advice --- so in general, output that gets done purely through the C layer ends up by-passing the advice layer. Except in cases where efficiency is the reason for the choice, could we switch to using message -- instead of message_with_string to produce output in the echo area that is to be seen by the user? As a place where I'd appreciate a fix, see keyboard.c: When you press a key that is currently undefined, the code in that module uses message_with_string to output a visible "%s is undefined" message. -- --