From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Psionic K Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Where / when Emacs on Gitlab? 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314886 Archived-At: --00000000000016d016060eba1285 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > You have. You just have to convince people that "turning the tide" is > a good idea. > Currently you aren't doing a good job at this, as far as I am concerned. > Possibly others feel similarly. In the interest of us all spending our time well, can other people who feel this way please filter my address? I don't have the benefit of a long history of well-known incompatible relationships that enable us to live independently of one another in this vibrant pond of ideas yet. I did find Eli's reply helpful to begin catching up on others' inputs. Most of the others, not so much. Thanks. On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 2:01=E2=80=AFPM wrote: > On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 07:37:25AM +0900, Psionic K wrote: > > > where we make forward progress > > > > So who here has the game plan to turn the tide? > > You have. You just have to convince people that "turning the tide" is > a good idea. > > Currently you aren't doing a good job at this, as far as I am concerned. > Possibly others feel similarly. > > In other words: you seem to be convinced that Yor Way is the Right Way. > Nothing wrong with that. But you don't seem willing to listen to others > why they think Their Way seems the Right Way for them. > > That may just be my impression, and I'm willing to learn. > > Cheers > -- > t > --=20 =EB=82=A8=EB=B0=B1=ED=98=B8 =EB=8C=80=ED=91=9C =EA=B2=B8 =EA=B3=B5=EB=8F=99 =EC=B0=BD=EC=97=85=EC=9E=90 =ED=8F=AC=EC=A7=80=ED=8A=B8=EB=A1=A0 --00000000000016d016060eba1285 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> You have. You just have to convince people that = "turning the tide" is
> a good idea.

> Currently you aren't doing a good job at this, as far as I am conc= erned.
> Possibly others feel similarly.

In the intere= st of us all spending our time well, can other people=C2=A0 who feel this w= ay please filter my address?=C2=A0 I don't have the benefit of a long h= istory of well-known incompatible relationships that enable us to live inde= pendently of one another in this vibrant pond of ideas yet.

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I did find Eli's reply helpful to begin catching up on others= ' inputs.=C2=A0 Most of the others, not so much.

Thanks.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 2:01=E2=80=AFPM <tomas@tuxteam.de> wrote:
On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 07:37:25AM= +0900, Psionic K wrote:
> > where we make forward progress
>
> So who here has the game plan to turn the tide?

You have. You just have to convince people that "turning the tide"= ; is
a good idea.

Currently you aren't doing a good job at this, as far as I am concerned= .
Possibly others feel similarly.

In other words: you seem to be convinced that Yor Way is the Right Way.
Nothing wrong with that. But you don't seem willing to listen to others=
why they think Their Way seems the Right Way for them.

That may just be my impression, and I'm willing to learn.

Cheers
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