From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radon Rosborough Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixing package-initialize, adding early init file Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:41:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1507665068 9506 195.159.176.226 (10 Oct 2017 19:51:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 19:51:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: rswgnu@gmail.com Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 10 21:51:04 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e20YO-0001Sw-G3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 21:51:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36889 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e20YV-0007le-S9 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:51:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:34289) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e20Pt-0001bK-VS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e20Pt-0001NS-9f for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:42:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::236]:54074) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e20Pt-0001N8-1e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 15:42:13 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x236.google.com with SMTP id l23so25425451lfk.10 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:42:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=uNw97PXwqKiLcvDbTEsbtKyAfWTa3uFaQdvOmhyLRZE=; b=V0pxZetGZCZQhpYEesUZLdZ38LG2mXXjGyMAHv0rR6M37RWkCRR+FACfNbdAC+YnmH ygJsWlZEq8ZfxHId6KxD6f/CcXd/VsKPd5tVv8dtxlLVNE+EEeKLJlBthfiFCNy7l0Ri bnj1/RCrdtNHpYMlQK1dnNcPLi/EP7iMCyAAQmbQCKhZwvBK3rGhCKs6fdKBwJrDwvbQ WWEaG+TTeMUB3iJq3Sd9KI0WvyLCRTFdvo6im/Gsy8WZ5MlqqLrjmPiqX9Q+mZ07PTAV smftoEjkYqPdKzQRY6TbWy0MD6evK/ElkVoXqNqMyeZqqE/b9h/4bH2cpGLwCCkzMqSs Uo8g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=uNw97PXwqKiLcvDbTEsbtKyAfWTa3uFaQdvOmhyLRZE=; b=JkJ/QRYReedPuDjl23u1BVUeFJomHfey0yTCm1R1WAJHXNIIcXUslZXOaNYqUThvI/ hVLp33jmNCvjVl9ZfMoFZPi869eHG3Mua/Ch9dorPIekjX3mo1Q9woJxkujBjk7iOBeu FlATPbFyHIJXCycNe5Vic5UkQ8CYENqPMDsnDDFX76u4lnOjjDLkKOFGy7M/nLbgpTcD nXXPFRRqOjT6YyHRICv43Rx6c1XohZ+lmTuMx0eA83SAUUpfMyMl+0fnHWMOICPEg/rQ jNgR8JomHtr3zp77ibuC5Aw8PsV3TA29iL9/EQS/nzw3W1SpXx16PsTrI+GdCWm6cyZ0 uvVA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaU96IslYB4d6cc3FW734WvbWm7/unqFL4TeoPQRbJm3d8cf0T6q KVGw8vytrustT6zidfm00ev4JcjGOzt2cWHqH3xa+Pt4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QAqOdW8X+UNeZ82xfcgOHN970NG7PcpRgGr9G+6Ha7i0ulGKozWs43ccbJ95rPm8dZrsteWZ2W0sIit0iFElaw= X-Received: by 10.25.29.196 with SMTP id d187mr4543178lfd.37.1507664531664; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:42:11 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.208.10 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:41:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::236 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219358 Archived-At: > When I mentioned 'package-initialize', I meant that users of > packages who would call that in their init files should not need to > have a second init file just to use packages and have them load > properly. Indeed, you need only have a second init file if you would like to customize `package-load-list', `package-enable-at-startup', `package-user-dir', or other such low-level variables. (In particular, `package-archives' can be set in the regular init file.) In fact, with this patch, you don't even need to have any package-related code at all in your init-file: not even `package-initialize'. Packages can be installed, and they will "just work", including if customizations are them are blindly pasted into the regular init file.