From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radon Rosborough Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Summary and next steps for (package-initialize) Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:34:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <83tw12cocz.fsf@gnu.org> <83wp5xat6i.fsf@gnu.org> <83pobk9aly.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f403045ea6260654dc05579ab8b1" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1503697073 3189 195.159.176.226 (25 Aug 2017 21:37:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2017 21:37:53 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 25 23:37:49 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dlMIS-0000Lt-CR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 23:37:44 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55167 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dlMIZ-0004QD-CB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:37:51 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60171) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dlMFz-0003H3-6M for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dlMFy-0000AA-H4 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:35:11 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::229]:34900) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dlMFy-000067-70 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 17:35:10 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x229.google.com with SMTP id k186so3930003lfe.2 for ; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:35:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nmTlrw3L9ofZa795vkP9O2EKicaMxuOtbCljJlnIpRw=; b=rkVZ2gHIqBRqxBxGMeS4UiwmGQySQ0YBZ7VAmcqL6r6AifdXkydYmC2tSajbpTkqzq KlZQgpXttfTHFgVdZeIQa+WBesV7Y77JX8wrM9nagAzZvZ0nK4aznd00AiHG+9VkWNdy BQodFt4VzKFG20oGIooxYX4XfSNlhy0i6xjzGIStE7vMSbICwlLTtLiZRmd++H0zszBg QhVf9nEXj4Qoz+9FKju1g8yPgHMn/qPc5+arA7bugwVMdkoEsUWUuddrAa1b5NYSHDdJ jMqb3g/gj7jFoXQtv5COyDUWQO2+uJgh3OOT8p3c1R/Cw8nqxVfCiF493emViM11ZxIX LqWQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nmTlrw3L9ofZa795vkP9O2EKicaMxuOtbCljJlnIpRw=; b=tW5jHTOjXQAejneos65biyxU8sXJJa+t5kScccNFi22HmzpSqFHiPaW8YIaSGsRHxI jGjHsYQcYgteuyvYOUS3VA90V0Ao1F4JnELwsN9i66Mr6uBvKvZBIZGqBYqcsbBG6Oo4 lGqpJKzgnOAydv2I8UCmwRy9si0U0aQLtZjFFfH0g9EwdSVZ1HBWTIeiXEK9OE2JJRVk ajYeLCStdYM1cmescvqvnYZ3GwVsrrbBNp0VUfrx+kYORTFShUBeft5134X3pjWjQqZg UDQIL56YHCYcbx6XbGP90R/Uik2SRqN8wPXEGa//g+/3+jJ5pV4DlJBhpf9SrePnVySG 5a0Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AHYfb5hYcqCTeysqwUf9Z/BKFe/6G3bhYnIH/OG62rR3vx8V5mj9bIIP tedvs1GZz2TMTT987cYkIWSBi5WtTw== X-Received: by 10.46.76.9 with SMTP id z9mr4474679lja.134.1503696907554; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:35:07 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.42.215 with HTTP; Fri, 25 Aug 2017 14:34:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:217823 Archived-At: --f403045ea6260654dc05579ab8b1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > how to allow users to use `M-x customize` in order to modify thing > like package-load-list and package-user-dir. I think this will require some special handling on the side of Custom, right? Since I would guess you can't use the same form for customizing package.el and customizing packages without having that form call package-initialize in the middle of it. Alternatively, you could say that anything requiring early init is considered an "advanced" feature that can't be accessed via Custom. --f403045ea6260654dc05579ab8b1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
> how to allow users to use `M-x customize` i= n order to modify thing
> like package-load-list and package-u= ser-dir.

I think this will require some special ha= ndling on the side of Custom,
right? Since I would guess you can&= #39;t use the same form for customizing
package.el and customizin= g packages without having that form call
package-initialize in th= e middle of it.

Alternatively, you could say that = anything requiring early init is
considered an "advanced&quo= t; feature that can't be accessed via Custom.

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