From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Radon Rosborough Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Proposals for fixing package-initialize Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:30:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87377phx6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1505439092 30834 195.159.176.226 (15 Sep 2017 01:31:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2017 01:31:32 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 15 03:31:28 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dsfTc-0007s0-Ki for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 15 Sep 2017 03:31:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50725 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dsfTk-0000vI-2B for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:31:36 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:60472) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dsfSx-0000v4-0Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dsfSw-0003w7-A3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:30:47 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf0-x22a.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a]:48598) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dsfSw-0003tu-1x for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:30:46 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id q132so977604lfe.5 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:30:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=HJ/hOSSu4284XtV+lm0HWsI0VyK7MlqvHHK5ZmHGS9g=; b=ETTUgKBaJQTrmfrFXe+V+PiUoc6kUnLAXK7eHLDaoc+r3sfG8py90mswIEc0Vq22VR 9lITWfxFG7RPMa00CmUARn0QX9h1yWN/JzV3+t6FxvvUNhsZXtTbFFumTQlLBcuHzkbf f3wJfSLBv4WXTpxmUTHY6YshRl0eizam8YkPZ+otQWz2d3Ug9MFFZasdsvjkU7zeBIAM iu8UuYSKyFDjOnqzERSXxnNvTqIOuTEUZyax+LBVCUQZhpU0NgwGt3fODD02xQ7WMC7I T31rntrG++Gh3vwAE7LLMpXrAvTub+TMzN75M9uMesHuXNo6c6RdUaR3a5r5r3Q9/Hm9 Q+6w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=HJ/hOSSu4284XtV+lm0HWsI0VyK7MlqvHHK5ZmHGS9g=; b=Li9QVGeaCHbnUrUqviz1SLxM8x1gggZ5MfxClXrJrPjeEQnm/mlvHQGGfu+fbH3ErZ xPLBAy3R5NFQ3q8TwwkunZvpCddCM0zmflW3EuzfCYKesgnyH+hw6HhH8m85zQYUudyQ lsZPYN+SmwFFHGxEr3Z+GSd6iyBZWq6gpqvK121o4Rv0bdx+Aw0CVH/1u/Ws+1CU0ZuO 8sPOeP7Rs2ZsP7gPq8VzwtXGDT+dm+/DkbFHuM3Md5xXp08rNi32+YcAD/ljkxDvLLAM xRT3Gz9/mE9DwuvUwnJZLymBOSoQ3o0XPdpwz2h9zsPF/2JjDETd1SUy0S7x+0tyVMIB Tc/g== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhZg2Ukb41V9ZXPFU/8tHTpDeaomfcjEYRgFendnrxbgrPJyTKk mqQ1BSfUqLXWjMV6fyyw7/dCinKEOpxc16s0zcq54Q== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCOHzSXKHmwozXTXpiQxWRUBIgyrmn5BnRuIHQwQSCfc5CpxRPj0hdJVCKAfXR1CJ9ZRS54YLWABjZFI7MeItA= X-Received: by 10.46.9.198 with SMTP id 189mr2118913ljj.134.1505439042959; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:30:42 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.22.76 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:30:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87377phx6y.fsf@lifelogs.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c07::22a X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218306 Archived-At: I'm currently in the process of working on a patch to implement Proposal B, since it is clear how to do that whereas Proposal F is probably a fair ways off still. The main complexities are: - updating Custom to allow saving variables to different files, because package.el config now needs to go in the early init file - moving some things around in startup.el (e.g. username validation), because the early init file needs to be loaded early of course!