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From: Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@gmail.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: eliz@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org,
	Tino Calancha <tino.calancha@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Why does make run git?
Date: Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:43:32 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADB4rJEVJtDY_T2G_qDLty+nX38OT-_Nq-ECJ7NAGLg6Ppuz0w@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1dcxPt-0002QZ-8n@fencepost.gnu.org>

> You can't rely on the user's having done 'make'
> in the repository before doing the git operations that use these
> settings.

That is true but it's much worse to rely on the user using VC. Hooking
into the build process isn't foolproof, but it's much better than
hooking into every possible version-control package for Emacs,
including ones like Magit which aren't built in to Emacs.

I don't think there really is any perfect solution to the problem of
configuring Git. You just have to accept that in some circumstances,
the configuration won't be done correctly, so that's why it's
important for there to be more robust checks run on CI when possible.

But really, hooking into the build process is probably the easiest way
to reach the most users with the least maintenance overhead and
inconvenience.

On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > > Perhaps there should be a function in Emacs that does this, and some
>   > > VC commands could call it.
>   > I think is for convenience.
>
> But it is unreliable.  You can't rely on the user's having done 'make'
> in the repository before doing the git operations that use these
> settings.
>
>
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman
> President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
> Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.
>
>



  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-02 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-01  1:19 Why does make run git? Richard Stallman
2017-08-01  3:07 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-01 14:30   ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-01 14:49     ` Tino Calancha
2017-08-02 17:26       ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-02 17:43         ` Radon Rosborough [this message]
2017-08-03 19:43           ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-03 20:02             ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-02 17:56         ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-02 18:31           ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-02 18:42             ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-02 19:10               ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-02 20:04                 ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-12 16:11                   ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-15 14:18           ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-15 15:52             ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-15 16:58               ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-15 17:08                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-15 20:39                 ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-16 12:30                   ` Andy Moreton
2017-08-16 12:38                     ` Noam Postavsky
2017-08-16 12:49                     ` Andreas Schwab
2017-08-16 14:09                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2017-08-01  3:14 ` Tino Calancha
2017-08-02 17:25   ` Richard Stallman
2017-08-01 15:10 ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-01 15:15   ` Kaushal Modi
2017-08-01 16:01 ` Radon Rosborough
2017-08-02 17:30   ` Richard Stallman

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