From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Mac OS-compatible ports Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 11:48:58 +0100 Message-ID: References: <9E637EAB-A0C5-421B-9CCA-71C41442AF52@gmail.com> <87ipl7zaea.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87sjkbib14.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87d3baui4b.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87mxacqlg4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87fwg3pfy4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <8739c2dscy.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87ehvkdgfr.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325414947 20498 80.91.229.12 (1 Jan 2012 10:49:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2012 10:49:07 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Leo , "emacs-devel@gnu.org" To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jan_Dj=E4rv?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jan 01 11:49:03 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RhIyN-00050P-Di for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 11:49:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41289 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhIyM-0004w9-WE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:49:02 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:50625) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhIyK-0004w4-VT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:49:01 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhIyJ-0002Zf-VX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:49:00 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:35816) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RhIyJ-0002YQ-Pj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 05:48:59 -0500 Original-Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so30392381iac.0 for ; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 02:48:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=L3qm1GaeJASyugmUsIqSavirsZACHc3KI1ocZTs33Xw=; b=G9nf2EewmfxMFkU1P9u5P61Ez9OcJPu/AlO+KTuuvul6NfKJ7vaXJ56m9mlZwWPtlx lVGxTR0pocqCcjekB8X38bKjgJ0dGGXzYZMHltRn048srH0nMoZDVEHJvp0R0OYZV0VV yha+GdYAAePwrv/qqT+cs52RvwXoBC067/XSE= Original-Received: by 10.42.29.6 with SMTP id p6mr46366676icc.44.1325414938485; Sun, 01 Jan 2012 02:48:58 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.106.132 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Jan 2012 02:48:58 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147116 Archived-At: On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 11:36 AM, Jan Dj=E4rv wrote: > Hello. > > > 1 jan 2012 kl. 07:26 skrev Leo : > >> On 2011-12-31 21:22 +0800, Ted Zlatanov wrote: >>> I agree with your statement, but we're not "pushing" the NS port only >>> because it's for GNUstep. =A0It's quite usable on Mac OS X. >> >> I wonder how you reach that conclusion. If you don't use Emacs heavily >> on a Mac, then you don't know if it is quite usable. My experience is >> that it is not. > > YMMV. I use Emacs every day on OSX and it is no different from > using Emacs on X in my experience. But I don't use Gnus or other > packages that people seems to have problems with. Same here, except I may not miss the intl font support the Mac port is supposed to have as an advantage. I do need features from bzr trunk, so there's no option for me to try the Mac port. There may be memory leaks, but there are enough potential leaks common to emacs regardless of ports (also seen with X on Linux). Emacs on Linux configured as /configure --without-selinux --without-tiff \ --without-sound --without-dbus --without-gconf \ --without-gsettings --without-xft --without-gsettings \ --with-x-toolkit=3Dno --without-gnutls Actually I might even disable GIF, JPEG, and PNG support as nyan-mode works in text-represenation, too, and I don't require more than 7-bit ASCII.