From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Update on the Emacs release schedule? Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 19:32:29 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87vcookmxd.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325961168 27000 80.91.229.12 (7 Jan 2012 18:32:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Jan 2012 18:32:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Chong Yidong , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 07 19:32:41 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjb4G-00087U-JP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 19:32:36 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36566 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjb4G-0002Vc-3s for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:32:36 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:42485) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjb4D-0002VJ-9O for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:32:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjb4C-0005ka-8U for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:32:33 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:37346) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Rjb4A-0005kA-6j; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 13:32:30 -0500 Original-Received: by iacb35 with SMTP id b35so5207874iac.0 for ; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:32:29 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=44Xog+l3OmXq5u2B3nA2EiRyOD/dmxXVSeYMDqMhiTc=; b=bEm2nlPBgvojoQy7wGaBFYDM2OJ6I2xQvOt3pYjUK63idegqw06Ya9x+CrLy8e9QPV gryY9ktlYlW+mgYOsaVh9fboLG/tVMuGtVcST8KnUdPLdZeToMxM226J4A/57vClpbXf GHlLP235zZ8ofhfqhc4/zVD+NWuTw5VJ+xW8k= Original-Received: by 10.50.85.199 with SMTP id j7mr2956584igz.25.1325961149399; Sat, 07 Jan 2012 10:32:29 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.106.132 with HTTP; Sat, 7 Jan 2012 10:32:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147455 Archived-At: On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> For the record, I use a --without-gnutls Emacs while also not >> using Gnus, and am part of the users seeing the "leaks". > > AFAIK you're not seeing leaks, but only excessive memory use (and > failure to return memory to the system early enough for your taste), Maybe :). How do we define "early enough"? Hours or days? I have let it run for hours a couple times without any memory being released. I don't want to criticize, but believe it's best to report what I see, which is apparently similar to what others see. This is all unscientific and I'd be happy to be shown I was wrong. How about we agree on a common set of probes and statistic gathering methods and only report the same set of measurements? To make it comparable. I started to wonder about emacs memory usage when on Linux it consumed 90 to 100 megs. I could hardly believe my eyes, having just edited a couple small source files.