From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Carsten Mattner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Periodical releases Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 12:31:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <71588355363047528F16FE989690A488@us.oracle.com> <87r4ze3lf8.fsf@gnu.org> <877h16337m.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1325763123 5417 80.91.229.12 (5 Jan 2012 11:32:03 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jan 2012 11:32:03 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Leo Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 05 12:32:00 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RilY7-0003yj-D4 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 12:31:59 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54795 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RilY6-000208-DQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:31:58 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:52671) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RilXy-000200-Ds for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:31:55 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RilXs-0003iH-Fa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:31:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-tul01m020-f169.google.com ([209.85.214.169]:62594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RilXs-0003iB-CP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 06:31:44 -0500 Original-Received: by obcwo8 with SMTP id wo8so557305obc.0 for ; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:31:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=n7li3adHB5DUewXcNFk9nApWuGQJM4mlNt8qBig7V9A=; b=UStXxH+ShA6GlAry2cJoRSFORuSOnIO/w5Xu1AHnHVREv4sgkn6/2inzu0UTlrkEtE 1gPKapnglWBouTrUvbD0K2a+TrhtL21WCTCiq8oYgYWKI61AHCpnWy6jdTUqg4CYpNZs 15bfFdA53/d8ojaSWO6PSLvecdZpR3DkS7xVc= Original-Received: by 10.50.85.199 with SMTP id j7mr2445249igz.25.1325763103737; Thu, 05 Jan 2012 03:31:43 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.50.106.132 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jan 2012 03:31:43 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 2) X-Received-From: 209.85.214.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:147330 Archived-At: On Thu, Jan 5, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Leo wrote: > On 2012-01-05 17:31 +0800, Bastien wrote: >> 2) I will probably release Org 8.0 before the end of the feature freeze >> =A0 =A0(say march or april). =A0Not having it in Emacs 24.1 is not such = a big >> =A0 =A0deal, agreed, but it creates a situation where people often insta= ll >> =A0 =A0Org on top of the one that comes with Emacs, which doesn't feel >> =A0 =A0optimal and leads to many questions, because of conflicting insta= lls. >> >> Both are separate, and I can try to take care of (1) myself. > > I think in future it may be desirable to make more use of the packaging > system now that we have one. It is like many of those GNU/Linux > distributions. The core developers/maintainers are concerned with the > core packages/functionality (it is better use of their time since they > usually have better insight of the project) and the rest can be taken > care by community members. For example the value of including org-mode > in the source tree is quite little. If it is distributed with the > packing system people can receive more timely bug fixes free of any > constraint of the release cycle. I second that. Cedet, Gnus, Org, themes (hash verification issues?)...