Okay, so I have got a working Proof of Concept / core functionality. You can very easily test it by loading the bookroll.el file from here , then do `M-x br-test` and scroll using `j`/`k`. I will now focus on trying to implement it into pdf-tools, which is probably a little more work as its code is quite complex/opaque. @Juri ``` Maybe then after a real image will be scrolled out of view, it could be replaced with a placeholder again to free memory. > Then, the scrolling can be implemented, by changing the display properties (from empty > svg to real image, and back) ``` Haha, that is exactly what I meant with exactly that (the following) sentence. Anyway, thanks for the nice response! On Sat, 8 Jan 2022 at 19:33, Juri Linkov wrote: > > I would like to share my perspective on this, but before I do that, > > let me first ask you if you have any idea about why pdf-tools is not > part of > > Emacs. It is a very high quality package, that already lazily loads the > images, > > and provides many sophisticated features. > > It would be nice to include pdf-tools in Emacs, but I don't know > if the new maintainer has an intention to submit it for inclusion. > > > You might already be familiar with my 2-buffer continuous scroll hack > for it > > (which can be easily ported to doc-view mode, but 'developing' a 'real' > > continuous scroll mode solution makes much more sense > > I agree, a real continuous scroll mode would be more preferable. > > > - I have created a, very rude but already nicely working, 'real' > continuous > > scroll proof of concept, for which, if you are interested, you can > find the > > code in this commit. It currently uses a trick where it only uses two > images > > at the time > > While two-images approach could provide better optimization for memory, > it has severe limitations, e.g. the vertical scroll bar can't be used > to scroll all images at once. > > > but as I will describe now, I think it will be better to create a > > 'bookroll' package for it. > > This is a promising direction. > > > I think the bookroll should not be so difficult to implement (I first > started to > > think about a general 'image-roll', but I think continuous scrolling is > > generally not what you want for viewing/scrolling images > > Why not? 'image-roll' could be useful for the image gallery packages > like image-dired.el and thumbs.el. > > > So my current idea for how to implement it, is by > > immediately creating overlays for all pages in a single buffer and fill > them > > with 'empty' svg-images of the correct size (after testing this with a > thousand > > 'placeholders', it seems that the 'empty' images use almost no memory). > > Good news, so loading a 1000-page document won't take much memory. > Only scrolling will load real images. Maybe then after a real image > will be scrolled out of view, it could be replaced with a placeholder again > to free memory. > > > Then, the scrolling can be implemented, by changing the display > properties (from empty > > svg to real image, and back) and jumping to the correct positions using > > `set-window-vscroll`. I have started on writing bookroll.el, of course > your > > joined efforts or feedback would be very much appreciated. Otherwise, > this short > > message serves just to inform you about these activities. > > Thanks, feel free to post updates about your progress > or when stuck on some problems. >