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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: Roland Winkler <winkler@gnu.org>,
	David Engster <deng@randomsample.de>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: oauth2 support for Emacs email clients
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2021 16:08:56 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC=50j_ztLyM=KBZODTL-85U1hw7QJ8qhrNY6htKUzQ5wWDeZw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1mDIRx-0001rP-3m@fencepost.gnu.org>

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I guess it would be possible - at least for the GNU Mailutils version (not
the Emacs version as it does not support imap or encrypted POP3). However,
I guess it would also involve adding a whole HTTP request library and an
Oauth2 library to obtain authentication/refresh tokens. This is of course
assuming that MS does allow an application ID to be used with IMAP (to be
confirmed).

This also only helps with MS Office365/Outlook access - it doesn't help
with Gmail or any other provider who transitions to nly support Oauth2. As
mentioned by others, the big stumbling block here is that each provider is
able to implement Oauth2 with their own custom workflow, which makes a
general generic solution difficult to define. The solution will probably
require some sort of 'pluggable' Oauth2 layer, which might include Oauth2
authenticators for popular mail providers and a facility to add a custom
one for others.

On Tue, 10 Aug 2021 at 13:30, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider    ]]]
> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,     ]]]
> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]
>
>   > Public client applications do not have a client secret but only an ID
>   > which can simply be embedded into the application, which is how DavMail
>   > does it. Public client applications are only allowed to access web APIs
>   > on behalf of the user, but this is usually enough.
>
> Is this something that movemail could in principle do?
> If so, what are the obstacles?  Is it just a matter of writing some code?
>
> --
> Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org)
> Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org)
> Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org)
> Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)
>
>
>
>

-- 
regards,

Tim

--
Tim Cross

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  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-10  6:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-08-03  5:00 oauth2 support for Emacs email clients Roland Winkler
2021-08-03  6:32 ` Uwe Brauer
2021-08-03  8:21 ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-03 19:38   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-04  0:56     ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-04  7:27       ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-04  7:41       ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-04 23:12         ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-04  7:03   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-04  7:21     ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-05 10:34       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-08-03  9:00 ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-03 19:27   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-03 22:02     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-05  0:21     ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-10 14:39       ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-11  0:43         ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-11  0:54           ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-12  2:16             ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-12  2:33               ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-03 20:21   ` Arthur Miller
2021-08-03 20:40     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-03 21:14       ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-08-03 21:19         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 10:46       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-14 11:12         ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-14 11:47           ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-15  3:04           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-15  3:04           ` Making your own application credentials as a user Richard Stallman
2021-08-15  4:10             ` Tim Cross
2021-08-03  9:20 ` oauth2 support for Emacs email clients Eric S Fraga
2021-08-03 11:17   ` Tim Cross
2021-08-03 12:55     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-03 13:14       ` tomas
2021-08-05 14:15         ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-03 15:04     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-03 19:45       ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-04  6:58         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-03 19:41   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-04  6:59     ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-04 14:45     ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-04 22:45       ` Tim Cross
2021-08-04 23:29         ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-05  7:45         ` Ulrich Mueller
2021-08-08  3:58       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-09  8:30         ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-12  2:15           ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-12 18:59             ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-03 23:38 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-08  6:01   ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-08  6:30     ` Andreas Schwab
2021-08-08 23:48       ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-09  0:01         ` Andrew Cohen
2021-08-08  8:52     ` David Engster
2021-08-08 14:22       ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-08 14:47         ` David Engster
2021-08-08 15:30           ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-08 16:00             ` David Engster
2021-08-08 23:31               ` Roland Winkler
2021-08-10  2:01               ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-10  9:07                 ` David Engster
2021-08-10 14:41                   ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-10 15:56                     ` David Engster
2021-08-11  6:37                       ` Alexandre Garreau
2021-08-11  3:00                   ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-11  9:57                     ` David Engster
2021-08-13  3:10                       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-11  2:55                 ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-14 15:00                   ` Thomas Fitzsimmons
2021-08-14 15:26                     ` Gregory Heytings
2021-08-08 16:05             ` Tim Cross
2021-08-09  8:39               ` Eric S Fraga
2021-08-10  3:29       ` Richard Stallman
2021-08-10  6:08         ` Tim Cross [this message]
2021-08-10 14:18           ` Roland Winkler

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