From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs-losedows-builder Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 16:51:59 +1000 Message-ID: References: <1137fded-fc14-2445-bc6b-e8f2aceed56c@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a114d3e2a108f2c053ba900f1 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1472971941 26925 195.159.176.226 (4 Sep 2016 06:52:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2016 06:52:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: simonfv@gmail.com, Dmitry Gutov , Emacs developers , Richard Copley , kaushal.modi@gmail.com, nikolay.kudryavtsev@gmail.com To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Sep 04 08:52:16 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bgRHq-0006Hv-UT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 08:52:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48944 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bgRHo-0001A0-ID for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:52:12 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:45879) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bgRHi-00019h-9B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:52:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bgRHg-0007GO-3B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:52:05 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f]:34210) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bgRHc-0007Fy-QK; Sun, 04 Sep 2016 02:52:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id t7so165465513qkh.1; Sat, 03 Sep 2016 23:52:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=YrTHqJyTl5MSQen5AMjks1sIAqRulvMG/n+J4UDjYKg=; b=bk0RAU23ZpXYiLR3kdHiKW1nBGL6BTMD44tJZw8E9IHjOOS1utDgWG0GoOVbquEy29 9rSQ9OCD4eSRoJ4TWt2k+xzx2pT346YEhqDrnUExeAKik0WeqMtVfcAC2CpB5UK32v1x Paql2jUv5SJNJPCNU8p2c/RKNKlEQs7zA3me72H6ab/tW6kgYaFRI+Xfggf+Cpnql5wI tOBEXbjK/Nwd3komIIAVqOozJ+8KKOuvmKG+Qu9euvsh3NeAeoZb/N9nl6t01hGMr50u TGFOsl3FIQcpHdNGSnKReSuFy6YnDhFgL3i5K0IcGm4lI89zbdwTJH+5Wz7MfXVyau1j w6LQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YrTHqJyTl5MSQen5AMjks1sIAqRulvMG/n+J4UDjYKg=; b=JaVIqJcQiEMl96jNuI/4bR+CNrRDUae10PoIFRKePLcUegjwIovES0oA5lwdcophnf 9tN19YR5pErfB8OiublWRYFO5bt28V/Kd9k1ptCAmzvCyNnDhnVuPvLAUq/rRmEdjFnM wYXFPwkkbe5KVQ2zN3RaAfkPEI9Lle1UTL6+HNe0qfRx3tAyI5/lakc/UL2T8ea8ebFL UPG+AjIoLtft561hGN4778ikHTbLeXPopgdiQlb7JX43lmLC3jWjrlL8o8BvGlM1Rn9O zg7mSSic35mMGT7fSGO1T2QtwAyHYyDNJTF1I8KK6GIE2675J6acCl9V1TmDgxxZPdTf AHxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AE9vXwMC+0cGDtarXGczQ0qYsUwlcxQFdco1i9PRhBmD5AWFE9vmHriwn1bnP3oGdr8IGy1elB+g20BE4cuKAA== X-Received: by 10.55.93.71 with SMTP id r68mr34214944qkb.131.1472971920148; Sat, 03 Sep 2016 23:52:00 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.200.41.237 with HTTP; Sat, 3 Sep 2016 23:51:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:207165 Archived-At: --001a114d3e2a108f2c053ba900f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 This reminds me of arguments from the 70s with the growth of feminism. At the time, there were some in the feminist movement who argued to ban the use of "man" even when the roots of the word had nothing to do with gender. It certainly didn't benefit the movement or help gain credibility - in the main it was seen as somewhat ridiculous and if anything gave ammunition to the anti-feminist movement. I fear this discussion will do the same. On 3 September 2016 at 22:02, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > It is GNU policy to avoid the abbreviation "win32". > We say "Windows32". > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org) > Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org) > Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html. > > > -- regards, Tim -- Tim Cross --001a114d3e2a108f2c053ba900f1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This reminds me of arguments from the 70s with the growth = of feminism. At the time, there were some in the feminist movement who argu= ed to ban the use of "man" even when the roots of the word had no= thing to do with gender. It certainly didn't benefit the movement or he= lp gain credibility - in the main it was seen as somewhat ridiculous and if= anything gave ammunition to the anti-feminist movement. I fear this discus= sion will do the same.=C2=A0

On 3 September 2016 at 22:02, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:
[[[= To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider=C2=A0 =C2=A0 ]= ]]
[[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,=C2=A0 =C2=A0= =C2=A0]]]
[[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]]<= br>
It is GNU policy to avoid the abbreviation "win32".
We say "Windows32".

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Dr Richard Stallman
President, Free Software Foundation (gnu.org, fsf.org)
Internet Hall-of-Famer (internethalloffame.org)
Skype: No way! See stallman.org/skype.html.





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regards,

Tim

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Tim Cross

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