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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:251519 Archived-At: --0000000000004ec49d05a6a665d5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 01:45, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Tim Cross > > Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 15:39:49 +1000 > > Cc: Richard Stallman , Emacs developers < > Emacs-devel@gnu.org> > > > > I have been back through the archives back to mid April and cannot find > anything that looks like a proposal. > > There are numerous threads discussing why we have elpa, what > conventions/rules should be enforced, > > rationale for having elpa, etc, but nothing which comes to any > conclusion or anything close to a proposal or > > call for decisions or any other actions, like feedback or further > suggestions. Either it has a non-obvious > > subject or is much further back in time. > > The proposal was to split ELPA into two, either insided the single > archive or make the second part be hosted on a different server. > OK, so it was really focusing on the lower level technical implementation rather than clarifying what the purpose of GNU ELPA is, relationship with GNU Emacs and what should be in either or both? It is probably too early to consider such matters, especially when things like a non-copyrights repository are being considered. -- regards, Tim -- Tim Cross --0000000000004ec49d05a6a665d5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, 28 May 2020 at 01:45, Eli Zar= etskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
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> From: Tim Cross= <theophilusx= @gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 15:39:49 +1000
> Cc: Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>, Emacs developers <Emacs-devel@gnu.org>
>
> I have been back through the archives back to mid April and cannot fin= d anything that looks like a proposal.
> There are numerous threads discussing why we have elpa, what conventio= ns/rules should be enforced,
> rationale for having elpa, etc, but nothing which comes to=C2=A0 any c= onclusion or anything close to a proposal or
> call for decisions or any other actions, like feedback or further sugg= estions. Either it has a non-obvious
> subject or is much further back in time.

The proposal was to split ELPA into two, either insided the single
archive or make the second part be hosted on a different server.

OK, so it was really focusing on = the lower level technical implementation rather than clarifying what the pu= rpose of GNU ELPA is, relationship with GNU Emacs and what should be in eit= her or both? It is probably too early to consider such matters, especially = when things like a non-copyrights repository are being considered.=C2=A0--
= regards,

Tim

--
Tim = Cross

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