From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Cross Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: company.el status? Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 13:56:23 +1100 Message-ID: References: <87ip53yuuv.fsf@yandex.ru> <5138DC2E.3020102@nschum.de> <87k3pj7xfy.fsf@yandex.ru> <5139C8E0.3030503@nschum.de> <87mwudwiw2.fsf@yandex.ru> <83obetx9wn.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bfd0562f0425204d8df2e71 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1364353003 18204 80.91.229.3 (27 Mar 2013 02:56:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2013 02:56:43 +0000 (UTC) Cc: me@nschum.de, Emacs developers , rms@gnu.org, Dmitry Gutov To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 27 03:57:07 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UKgXv-0000oS-JI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 27 Mar 2013 03:57:03 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53258 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKgXX-0008Pc-Ni for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:56:39 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:43521) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKgXT-0008ME-Fr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:56:36 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKgXN-0003nC-2Q for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:56:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x22b.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b]:54323) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1UKgXJ-0003lB-7y; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 22:56:25 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f171.google.com with SMTP id hn17so1859587wib.4 for ; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:56:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:x-received:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=W51S0NhXaGo4zUgSaZ43wTQAZIcIcnuFVQeIBfA5fsc=; b=xjaN5tpF8RFJSFWYeon3Zam9ICYxEaZTrkw0BCH6caFiDcOQxQ5Ftn1LQhbaC2fbMe A+rbUkJ79Pu+c3Z3WtpPvnQIdKgpwUAxUYebTfMJch1pOdI8p22OniY+qJ73wv+bqHhV QmU08ro2Z4ABcs4MmYd7BebHGFF8Vre9OY0rxdEBYaaiOAiwAoCXnitSlIAlb34zNUka 1+zH8vQJGwrkT0pGjXIN0gHDTfoFkJToQXmQjqodpXBMvIp/t2AdmnVIHBxf9oCkfLpo UDTnHP7eD92cvi3bHhlMY24WN1LIYQcTntFi5901JCJA7kl+wF2gc4amVufPkA1n8vpQ D+ZQ== X-Received: by 10.194.88.138 with SMTP id bg10mr22297792wjb.13.1364352983645; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.194.177.196 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:56:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83obetx9wn.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:158259 Archived-At: --047d7bfd0562f0425204d8df2e71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 My question as well. While I won't lose any sleep should we give up on bzr and move to git, I am very concerned regarding further fracturing of the emacs ecosystem if that means using a platform which is using non-free tools. Git != GitHub. Lets have all official emacs packages use git, but on gnu.org. If we start moving things out to various other locations, before long, we will have forks and different versions all over the place, leaving an envrionment where only the determined and experienced emacser has any hope - all new users will run a mile. On 9 March 2013 19:19, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Dmitry Gutov > > Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:50:53 +0400 > > Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Nikolaj Schumacher > > > > Richard Stallman writes: > > > > > I am told that Github has features that don't work unless > > > you run nonfree Javascript. > > > > That's an accurate assertion. The core features all seem to work, > > though, even when JavaScript is disabled. > > Why do we need Github? > > -- Tim Cross --047d7bfd0562f0425204d8df2e71 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My question as well. While I won't lose any sleep shou= ld we give up on bzr and move to git, I am very concerned regarding further= fracturing of the emacs ecosystem if that means using a platform which is = using non-free tools. Git !=3D GitHub. Lets have all official emacs package= s use git, but on gnu.org. If we start movin= g things out to various other locations, before long, we will have forks an= d different versions all over the place, leaving an envrionment where only = the determined and experienced emacser has any hope - all new users will ru= n a mile.




On 9 March 2013 19:19, Eli Zaretskii &l= t;eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Dmitry Gutov <dgutov@yandex.ru>
> Date: Sat, 09 Mar 2013 03:50:53 +0400
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Ni= kolaj Schumacher <me@nschum.de>
>
> Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>= ; writes:
>
> > I am told that Github has features that don't work unless
> > you run nonfree Javascript.
>
> That's an accurate assertion. The core features all seem to work,<= br> > though, even when JavaScript is disabled.

Why do we need Github?




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