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From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Compiled files without sources????
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2011 09:10:23 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC=50j9949tU97+EN5Cu0Me8=NCPKPx2wmQgi_P7jjQ9mD4=pw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877h6yp652.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp>

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 6:06 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull <stephen@xemacs.org> wrote:
> Lars Ingebrigtsen writes:
>
>  > It was a minor boo-boo, and it's been fixed,
>
> It wasn't a "boo-boo", it was a deliberate omission for the
> convenience of the Emacs and CEDET developers who considered
> integration of CEDET functionality more important than the principle
> of software freedom.  The fact that you consider it a "minor boo-boo"
> suggests that the underlying problem is nowhere near to being fixed.
>

I think this is a completely unjustified statement. There has been
nothing in this thread that suggests these files were not included
simply for the convenience of developers or because functionality was
prioritized over licensing. The fact the files were able to be added
without any significant problems of integration does not support your
argument as including or not including has little convenience value.
The decision to not include them may have been deliberate, but there
is simply insufficient information to judge the reasons why they were
omitted. Licensing and legal matters are complex, often surprising and
frequently open to multiple interpretations. I think it is far more
likely the error was due to an honest error in
understanding/interpretation of the licensing requirements rather than
the somewhat malicious and deliberate interpretation you have
suggested.

Tim



  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-31 23:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 130+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-03-10  5:34 Emacs 23.3 released Chong Yidong
2011-03-10  8:58 ` Bastien
2011-03-10 16:07 ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 16:22   ` David Kastrup
2011-03-10 16:54     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-10 17:54       ` David Kastrup
2011-03-10 18:00         ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-10 19:17           ` State of the CEDET merge (was: Emacs 23.3 released) David Engster
2011-03-11 14:29             ` State of the CEDET merge Lluís
2011-03-11 14:45               ` David Kastrup
2011-03-11 15:48                 ` Lluís
2011-03-12  9:42                   ` David Kastrup
2011-03-12 13:15                     ` Eric M. Ludlam
2011-03-12 20:49                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-13 14:13                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2011-03-14 19:55                           ` Lluís
2011-03-14 20:39                             ` Lennart Borgman
2011-03-14 22:28                               ` Lluís
2011-03-13 15:13                   ` David Engster
2011-03-14 20:08                     ` Lluís
2011-03-15  1:33                       ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 14:03                         ` Lluís
2011-03-16 15:24                           ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-16 15:30                             ` David Kastrup
2011-03-16 20:23                               ` Lluís
2011-03-18 17:43                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-18 17:51                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-07-24  8:14                     ` David Kastrup
2011-07-24 10:01                       ` David Engster
2011-07-24 13:11                         ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27  2:46                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-27  6:25                           ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27  7:21                             ` David Engster
2011-07-27  7:39                               ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27  8:06                                 ` Andreas Röhler
2011-07-27  8:24                                   ` David Kastrup
2011-07-27 16:14                                 ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-07-27 17:57                                   ` David Kastrup
2011-07-28  5:53                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-28 10:02                                       ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-28 23:00                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-28 23:28                                           ` Paul Eggert
2011-07-29 14:32                                             ` Milan
2011-07-29 22:33                                             ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30  2:12                                               ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30  4:36                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30 20:33                                                   ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-30 23:20                                                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-07-31  4:46                                                       ` Tim Cross
2011-07-31 11:03                                                         ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 13:29                                                           ` Tim Cross
2011-07-31 17:45                                                             ` Andreas Röhler
2011-07-31 17:55                                                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-31 18:06                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2011-07-31 20:06                                                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-07-31 21:47                                                                   ` David Engster
2011-07-31 22:36                                                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-07-31 23:15                                                                       ` David Engster
2011-08-01  0:14                                                                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 23:10                                                                   ` Tim Cross [this message]
2011-08-01 12:33                                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-01 13:14                                                                       ` David Kastrup
2011-08-01 14:37                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-01 14:42                                                                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2011-08-02  0:13                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-02  7:10                                                                         ` David Kastrup
2011-08-03  4:17                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-02  0:13                                                                       ` Letting the users off the hook Richard Stallman
2011-08-03  4:16                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-03  6:50                                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2011-08-03 19:18                                                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 23:56                                                                   ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 16:19                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-31 17:04                                                       ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 23:56                                                         ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-01  3:08                                                           ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-01 21:28                                                             ` Replacing tarballs on-the-fly (was: Re: Compiled files without sources????) Ulrich Mueller
2011-08-02 16:09                                                               ` Replacing tarballs on-the-fly Chong Yidong
2011-08-02 17:43                                                                 ` Ulrich Mueller
2011-08-03  4:17                                                                   ` Richard Stallman
2011-08-03 20:31                                                                     ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-02  0:13                                                             ` Compiled files without sources???? Richard Stallman
2011-08-02 15:56                                                             ` Chong Yidong
2011-08-03  4:16                                                               ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30  4:35                                               ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-29 16:25                                   ` Evgeny M. Zubok
2011-07-29 16:37                                     ` David Kastrup
2011-07-29 23:40                                     ` Richard Stallman
2011-07-30 12:56                                       ` Evgeny M. Zubok
2011-07-30 13:25                                         ` David Kastrup
2011-07-30 20:55                                         ` Chong Yidong
2011-07-31 16:19                                           ` Richard Stallman
2011-03-10 16:45   ` Emacs 23.3 released Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-11  4:26     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11  4:42       ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-11  9:44       ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-11 20:18         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11 23:03           ` Andreas Schwab
2011-03-12  0:03             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-12  1:38               ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 19:21   ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-11  4:20     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-11  7:14       ` Thierry Volpiatto
2011-03-12  3:35         ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-12 12:23           ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 14:10             ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-14 14:52               ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-14 15:51                 ` Lexbind (was: Emacs 23.3 released) Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17  1:59                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 10:28                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 12:22                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 15:13                         ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 16:07                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 18:06                             ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 19:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-17 19:46                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19  0:54                                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-19  8:35                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-19  9:28                                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-17 20:01                     ` Lexbind Stefan Monnier
2011-03-17 22:07                       ` Lexbind Wojciech Meyer
2011-03-17 23:29                       ` Lexbind Juanma Barranquero
2011-03-18  7:39                         ` Lexbind joakim
2011-03-10 19:27   ` Emacs 23.3 released Mike Mattie
2011-03-10 19:56   ` Glenn Morris
2011-03-11  8:45   ` Eli Zaretskii
2011-03-11 16:56     ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-11 20:19     ` Stefan Monnier
2011-03-10 18:57 ` Chong Yidong
2011-03-12  9:28   ` updating web manuals [Re: " Jim Meyering

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