From: Tim Cross <theophilusx@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org>,
thibaut.verron@gmail.com, Boruch Baum <boruch_baum@gmx.com>,
Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>,
Stefan Kangas <stefankangas@gmail.com>,
Andrea Corallo <akrl@sdf.org>
Subject: Re: non-gnu elpa issue tracking
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 11:54:41 +1100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC=50j83MAZvdbbqJndFjuD++fr+2fcJSKnhOvb50wKKs9knMw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvk0tljkrj.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
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On Mon, 14 Dec 2020 at 11:33, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
wrote:
> > and that list contains the following -
> >
> > (("ace-window" :external "https://github.com/abo-abo/ace-window")
> [...]
> > ("ztree" :external "https://github.com/fourier/ztree")
> [...]
> > I don't have an issue with this, but it does seem inconsistent to argue
> > github does not comply with FSF philosophy and guidelines while at the
> same
> > time using it to maintain code which the FSF holds the copyright for and
> to
> > have references to github as the homepage for the package.
>
> Correction: the above URLs are reference to the Git repository, not to
> the homepage. I know Github conflates the two, but the above URLs are
> not advertised to the end user.
>
> The URL we advertise as "the homepage" on elpa.gnu.org are taken from
> the "URL:" pseudo header in the package's main file (i.e. `<pkg>.el`).
> For most (all?) packages hosted on Github, that URL is the same as the
> one found in `externals-list` of course but I think the distinction is
> important (e.g. we could refrain from including the reference to the
> "homepage" on github while keeping the Git reference).
>
> I'm not sure I get the subtle difference you seem to be referring to. From
my simple end user perspective, I find a package in the list of packages by
running M-x list-packages , for example, I have the following in the
current list -
ack 1.10 available gnu interface to
ack-like tools
When I move to that line and hit enter, the following window pops up,
providing details about this package
Package ack is available.
Status: Available from gnu -- Install
Archive: gnu
Version: 1.10
Summary: interface to ack-like tools
Homepage: https://github.com/leoliu/ack-el
Keywords: tools processes convenience
Maintainer: João Távora <joaotavora@gmail.com>
Author: Leo Liu <sdl.web@gmail.com>
This tells me the homepage for this package is on github.com. The
repository hosting this package is GNU ELPA, which tells me it is code that
is copyright to the FSF. To my uneducated view, this leads me to the
assumption that the FSF uses github.com, despite their position regarding
ethical software and ethical hosting.
--
regards,
Tim
--
Tim Cross
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Thread overview: 83+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-12-09 12:55 non-gnu elpa issue tracking Boruch Baum
2020-12-09 16:58 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-09 19:18 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 21:48 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-09 23:40 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 23:58 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-11 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-11 6:05 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-10 4:32 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-10 6:28 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 19:23 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-09 23:22 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-12-10 0:09 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-10 9:14 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-12-10 11:23 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-10 14:19 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-12-10 16:37 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-11 6:10 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-10 11:49 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-10 14:05 ` Stefan Kangas
2020-12-10 15:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-10 16:05 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-10 17:35 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-11 6:09 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-11 6:04 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-11 11:10 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-12-12 5:34 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-12 6:37 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-12 10:08 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-12-12 15:23 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-12 17:07 ` Thibaut Verron
2020-12-13 4:56 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-13 5:20 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-13 9:54 ` Andrea Corallo via Emacs development discussions.
2020-12-13 22:59 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-14 0:32 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-14 0:54 ` Tim Cross [this message]
2020-12-14 4:36 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-14 5:45 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-15 5:44 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-14 10:03 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-14 14:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-14 15:01 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-14 15:12 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-14 15:52 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-14 0:16 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-13 4:56 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-13 8:56 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-12-14 5:50 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-14 6:45 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-12 13:48 ` Michael Albinus
2020-12-12 13:50 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-12 15:37 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-12 19:54 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-12 20:46 ` Stephen Leake
2020-12-12 21:24 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-12 21:48 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-13 0:39 ` Tim Cross
2020-12-13 1:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-13 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-13 4:58 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-12 21:06 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-12-13 4:58 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-13 5:27 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-12-12 19:33 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-12 21:24 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2020-12-13 4:59 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-13 5:03 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-14 17:38 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 18:49 ` Vasilij Schneidermann
2020-12-14 22:13 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-14 19:10 ` Boruch Baum
2020-12-14 22:17 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-16 5:32 ` Richard Stallman
2021-01-02 5:25 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-10 4:35 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-10 5:03 ` Boruch Baum
2020-12-10 5:55 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-10 6:39 ` "Open records", "good government principles", "corporate culture" Boruch Baum
2020-12-10 7:27 ` Jean Louis
2020-12-10 14:08 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-12-11 6:16 ` Richard Stallman
2020-12-10 6:54 ` non-gnu elpa issue tracking Jean Louis
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